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Would you rather...The Tudors Edition!
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Thread started: Dec 18 2009, 3:35 PM EST
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To those who do not know this game...
How to play: Answer the "Would You Rather" post ahead of yours then post your own conundrum using the format I'll model in the first one.
Rules: - NO godmoding. Saying "Both", "Neither" or making something up is not permitted. You must choose one of the options. - If you have multiple "Would You Rathers" wait a few turns before posting another one. - And of course, keep the subject Tudor/History related. But the questions can be as silly or serious as you want.
Let's begin!
Would you rather...
A) Get beheaded because of your beliefs and opposing views.
B) Be severely physically tortured for two years for a crime you didn't commit (But you are freed right after)
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Good one! Probably B. The monk's life is not for me, but I couldn't take another's life even if they forgave me (in those days I would have feared going to hell even for this type of killing).
Would you rather...
A) Be the undisputed patroness of the arts, learned in letters, skilled in diplomacy, respected by your peers, independently rich noblewoman and live in constant dangerous ill health ~ or ~
B) Be the most renkowned and graceful beauty of the age, desired by all, pampered with luxury, healthy and strong beloved mistress of the king, prince, or duke and live entirely by their every whim
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Bravo Catherine of Aragon!
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As I have hitherto stated without equivocation, Henry missed the royal barge here. He could've been a happily married monarch (possibly even with an abundance of sons) if he only learned this great life lesson---love that which is lovely. Certainly the doughty Catherine of Aragon fills this bill. He was beguiled into a life of self-indulgence and licentiousness by his own bad "male-monarchical-mojo". Henry would've been smart to have cultivated this best-of-all relationships but he sabotaged his own life in the obsessive pursuit of an heir.
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I think Henry's last possible chance to have a male heir was with Anne of cleves. too bad they took such an instant dislike of each other, but good for Anne in the long run. At least she kept her head.
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Thomas Moore: Saint or Selfish
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Sir Thomas More Controversies
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I have always admired Thomas Moore. Recently, my attitude about him has changed. I was on a 'Moore Kick' and re- watched Seasons 1&2 of the Tudors and A Man For All Seasons and anything else in my movie library for more info on him. What happened was that I found my high opinion of him changed. How could a man so good, so just, and so concerned with Humanity let his family suffer for his own beliefs? Moore knew the outcome of his actions and knew that his family would suffer, but still denied taking the Oath, even though he knew that he could have taken it w/a reservation. His circumstances changed when he gave up the Chancellorship and he became poor, but he was still a lawyer and practiced and earned some money for the family. His own beliefs were just, but how can a person knowingly let their family fall victim to penury? How could he in good conscience, just let the chips fall where they may over an idealism of his own? Everyone he knew pleaded w/him to take the Oath, including his family, but he would not because it bothered his 'conscience'. To me, that is an act of a selfish man, not a Saint. Granted, he did many good deeds in his life, but that doesn't justify him letting his family down. His family needed him and he denied them. He KNEW what would happen to them, yet he persisted w/his ideals. If he really loved his family as much as he said he did, he'd not have let them suffer. Just because he wanted 'out' didn't mean he had to drag his family with him. I think he should have taken the Oath and become a real Saint by keeping his family whole and housed.
What think you, Tudor Fans?
Peace, ETR
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Hey everyone! I think everyone has a valid point of view, but I Love Splitting Hairs, so please forgive me (sorry!) as I respectfully point out that Pope Leo X wasn't the first, nor the last, to sell indulgences.You're right Lary9, though it had been going on since the reign of early Renaissance pope Sixtus IV at least (Sixtus had to fund the building of the Sistine Chapel somehow and his nephew Julius II had to get Michelangelo to paint it somehow! *just kidding" that wasn't funny) :-)
In all seriousness, Pope Clement VII (Leo's cousin) was pontiff when Luther's movement gained it's momentum, as well as during the Church of England's break from Rome. Of course it was a number of causes that revved up the Reformation all across Europe. It was the excesses of the pope, cardinals, and curia that disgusted Luther so much on his visit to Rome, that was the final straw.
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At 0:26 who is she? Shes not <anne boleyn ! And who is the guy on the right?
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Anne/?Jane Boleyn? - Dress
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hahah! I've seen that a lady-in-waiting wear Jane Seymours clothes ^^
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OT: Who Dat Nation
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Sorry to interrupt the regularly scheduled programing....but YIP-FRIGGIN-EE, y'all. My Saints won the friggin Super Bowl. This is huge down in my neck of the woods. HUGE!
It's party time!!! Damn, I'm happy :)
Okay,,,,back to regularly scheduled programing :)
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"You betcha scooter/buster! Good for you. I was born in New Orleans and am also a Saints supporter." i enjoy New Orleans (even though i'm not big on football) i also read that JRM is a Saints supporter (because of his bro's wife) even though he likes the Steelers- http://www.okmagazine.com/2010/02/how-stars-celebrate-super-bowl-sunday6/
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Annne vs Katharina
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FACE OFFS of Tudors Cast/Characters
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"Who had the most tension between them" oh this question is quiet difficult..I think Katherina's anger was bigger than Annes
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Anne Boleyn and the other wives returns
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SPOILERS - Season 4 of the Tudors
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Natalie will indeed reprise her role as Anne Boleyn in The Tudors for a dream sequence at the end of Season 4!I hope this does turn out to be true...what do you mean?
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How did your interest in The Tudors start?
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I first got interested in history when I read Gone With The Wind about 6 years ago. After that I went on a civil war study and read all I could about the times. I wasn't so interested in the war itself, but in the people and how they lived. then I read "Cane River", and got interested in slavery and read a lot on that subject. Several years ago I read Gregory's "The Other Boleyn Girl". I admit that at the time, I knew nothing. I didn't even remember she died at the end! What can I say....I was a product of US public schools. lol After that, I started to read both fiction and non-fiction books on the Tudor family and it became a real obsession. I was thrilled when The Tudors came out, though as I didn't have Showtime at the time, I wasn't even aware of the series until they started advertising Season 2. I Netlixed the first season and quickly caught up. I'm pretty well versed in Tudor history at this point, I've read probably more than 30 books on the Tudors and other European monarchs. My obsession continues!
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What a marvelously wide-angled question. My interest in general history as a subject began when I realized that history was pretty much the same process in which my family engaged as they sat around on Thanksgiving and told stories about our notable ancestors--the Uncles and Aunts and Grandparents; the times and places, et al. It is that same spirit that illuminates all my pathways into history. I too started cut my teeth on the American Civil War. Thanks Ken Burns! And from there it began to grow and specialize in various other subjects. My historical imagination and skill in methodology grew very slowly as my POV began to enlarge. (This is one reason why young people as a rule don't like history; it takes too much reading and too much historical meditation initially to acquire a stable base of reference). When I got around to World History, it seemed like the Tudor dynasty was a natural addition to my evolving "extended family" story. So, in short, it was Thanksgiving and all my crazy Uncles that eventually led me to Henry VIII and his sparkling, red-headed daughter, Elizabeth. Since then, I have not looked back. Or should I say 'I have continuously looked back'?
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Jean Plaidy
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Catherine Parr - Fiction Shelf
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The Sixth Wife (of course). Every other book about Catherine Parr is called that. Or maybe every book entitled the Sixth Wife is about Catherine Parr? Poor Catherine Parr.
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"I enjoy her work as well. Hasn't she used pseudonyms for some of her novels?" Yes, as Victoria Holt and one more pseudonym too.
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Has anyone seen a Tudor ghost?
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In posting to a new member, Freya 9, it made me wonder if any other members have had any ususual experiences when visiting Tudor sites? As many of you know, I often guide ( maybe two or three times a week) at Gainsborough Old Hall and have had many a visitor take fright. Not surprisingly most occur in the passage way leading towards the bed chamber where it is thought Catherine Howard stayed in 1541 on her fateful visit to York and Lincolnshire. My poor husband has also had 'someone' tug quite persistantly at his coat when standing in the passage way taking a photograph of Lady Rose Hickman's portrait through the Upper Great Chamber doorway. He now refuses to go up there alone! So, has anyone anything similar to report?
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"I couldn't agree more. There are no ghosts as far as I'm concerned, but historical sites have their own magic in our hearts." I guess you have to experience it to understand. I agree that the historical sights do have a magical feeling to them, but what I experienced was something else. I just can`t explain it exactly, but if you ever have an experience like this, you will know the differance.
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The Natural Narcissism of Royals
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I suspect it might have been tough to grow up as a royal personage, especially a monarch, and develop any checks against self-indulgence. Imagine how natural your sense of unlimited entitlement would be if you were a sitting king--- to the manor born and raised to be king. In fact, there would be little reason to deny any impulse and no one around you would say a critical word either. What a set-up for unrestrained narcissism.How hard might it have been for a modern person to tolerate the egocentrism of a 16th. century king? Is that why so many were assassinated? I wonder were they all like Henry or were some more personally enlightened; possessing a modicum of empathy.In fact I'm sure that the royal personality type was not well suited to adapt to survival during periods of dramatic social change. (So many firing squads and guillotines, so little time.)
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Facebook Roleplay
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Hey guys, once again more roles for the RP required ...
Francis Bryan Stephen Gardiner William Roper (Meg More's husband) Pope Clement Lady Salisbury Elizabeth Darrell
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The Secret Bride: In The Court of Henry VIII
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By Diane Haeger, sorry
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Other Tudor Related - Fiction Shelf
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The Thistle and the Rose (about the real Margaret Tudor), and Mary, Queen of France (about Mary Tudor-Brandon) by Jean Plaidy. Also theThe Secret Bride: In The Court of Henry VIII also about Mary Tudor-Brandon. If its Tudor and its fiction I've probably read it.
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See my accidental posts under Catherine Howard Nonfiction for some goodies.
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Anne of Cleves - Fiction Shelf
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The Boleyn Inheritance by Philippa Gregory of course. My Lady of Cleves by Margaret Campbell Barnes which is a classic I adore.
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Queen of This Realm, and Gay Lord Robert both about Elizabeth I by Jean Plaidy. Plus The Virgin's Lover by Philippa Gregory, So Merciful A Queen So Cruel A Woman by Alice Harwood (about Catherine and Mary Grey too).
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And wouldn't you know?
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Katherine Howard - Non Fiction Shelf
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I posted these to the nonfiction shelf by mistake sorry!
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Murder Most Royal A Novel of Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard by Jean Plaidy/Victoria Holt. The first part of the book on Anne Boleyn repeats an earlier book, The King's Secret Matter, but the second half on Catherine Howard is new.
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