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DivorcedBeheadedDied
DivorcedBeheadedDied
Romanticised History
Oct 13 2009, 11:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2009, 11:58 AM EDT
Well we all know Henry was the renaissance man...surely he would have had the power to eliminate any history he didn't like...anything popular enough to get noticed would have been destroyed and anything not destroyed wouldn't have been known enough to ever have been noticed by history. What if...and bear with me now...what if Anne Boleyn was amazingly stupid (i don't think she was I really admire her), what if nothing about his wives were true what if they were all stupid and sweet...(i dont think they were) it's possible isn't it? Basically he could have beheaded them all with no reason other than he was bored of them and noone would ever know...Tell me what you think :D Do you find this valuable?    
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MsSquirrly
MsSquirrly
1. RE: Romanticised History
Oct 13 2009, 12:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2009, 12:06 PM EDT
Even though Henry liked to think he was God, he obviously wasn't so he wasn't all powerful to the point where he could wipe out letters and writings that were written by people like Ambassador Chapuys to Emperor Charles V or George Cavendish's life story of Cardinal Wolsey etc. He did successfully during his lifetime wipe out any mention of Anne Boleyn after her death but after his own death of course many things were revealed that had been hidden. It is interesting that a lot of what we have of Anne was written by the Ambassador who disliked Anne intensely but still a potrait of a clever ( yet cunning) woman was portrayed. Do you find this valuable?    
DivorcedBeheadedDied
DivorcedBeheadedDied
2. RE: Romanticised History
Oct 13 2009, 12:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2009, 12:16 PM EDT
"Even though Henry liked to think he was God, he obviously wasn't so he wasn't all powerful to the point where he could wipe out letters and writings that were written by people like Ambassador Chapuys to Emperor Charles V or George Cavendish's life story of Cardinal Wolsey etc. He did successfully during his lifetime wipe out any mention of Anne Boleyn after her death but after his own death of course many things were revealed that had been hidden. It is interesting that a lot of what we have of Anne was written by the Ambassador who disliked Anne intensely but still a potrait of a clever ( yet cunning) woman was portrayed. "
Yes i suppose so...i hadn't though of Wolsey etc. And I don't suppose Elizabeth would have wanted her mother portrayed as a *****.
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s.rochie
s.rochie
3. RE: Romanticised History
Oct 14 2009, 3:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 14 2009, 3:27 PM EDT
Historians always like to give the impression that they know what happened, as if history is carved in stone and can only ever be one way. But really, even the greatest historian can only work with what he or she is given - which is not a lot. They have to use documents and testimonies that could be flawed and written by 'the victors' anyway. they rely on rumours and letters and opinions of the time. The case of Anne Boleyn is the ultimate in this debate - there was so much muck slung at the poor woman, and some of it stuck. It could all have been false, every bit of it, and we would be none the wiser. Do you find this valuable?    
lettice
lettice
4. RE: Romanticised History
Oct 19 2009, 5:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 19 2009, 5:13 PM EDT
"Even though Henry liked to think he was God, he obviously wasn't so he wasn't all powerful to the point where he could wipe out letters and writings that were written by people like Ambassador Chapuys to Emperor Charles V or George Cavendish's life story of Cardinal Wolsey etc. He did successfully during his lifetime wipe out any mention of Anne Boleyn after her death but after his own death of course many things were revealed that had been hidden. It is interesting that a lot of what we have of Anne was written by the Ambassador who disliked Anne intensely but still a potrait of a clever ( yet cunning) woman was portrayed. "
True MsSquirrly! Chapuys certainly was no fan of Anne and much of what he wrote about her was negatively biased. However, clever is clever!
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