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Reggie19 |
40. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 10:14 PM EDT
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"I totally agree with you.Why dont people just leave him alone. I hate when people talk dirt about him. He is human and humans make mistakes. And for Perez Hilton he is a moron"Unfortunately when actors become celebrities it's as if they sign this invisible contract that means their life is an open book, and anyone who wants to slander them can go right ahead, but they f****** infuriate me all the same, i have Heath Ledger on the brain today for some reason, but i will always hate them for how they treated him... even Johnny Depp ran off to France to get away from them! Do you find this valuable? |
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JRMISMYMAN |
41. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 10:19 PM EDT
Perez is a sorry excuse of a human being. He likes to dish it out but if anybody fought back he didnt like it and then he will get personal. Iam glad he got beaten up the other day.
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Maggie-AnneB. |
42. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 10:23 PM EDT
"Perez is a sorry excuse of a human being. He likes to dish it out but if anybody fought back he didnt like it and then he will get personal. Iam glad he got beaten up the other day."Even if he is a sorry excuse of a human being, he is still a human being. Just because you don't like what he does for a living, you shouldn't look down on him. That's also really hurtful that your "glad" he was hurt. That's nice that you condone violence. 2 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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JRMISMYMAN |
43. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 10:33 PM EDT
You have your opinion and I have mine , and yes sometime a person needs a quick kick in the butt. and Icant believe you will defend a person who is nasty, hurtful, and a spiteful person. Who would not blink and try to ruin somebody life if he could. . I wouldnt look down on him ,I wouldnt even look at him because he dont deserve any respect.
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Conyle |
44. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 10:36 PM EDT
I don't think a debate on Perez Hilton's character is going to be positive in any way at the moment.We're all concerned about JRM and wish him well. That is something we can all agree upon. I suggest we focus on that right now. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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frogy23 |
45. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 10:46 PM EDT
Comments on Perez are not worth my time. But I am deeply concerned about Jonathan. Absolutely he, and only he is responsible for his actions if he chose to drink when it is so obviously is something he can't handle. I think he is well aware of the bargain he has made as a star. And the comments Maggie quoted were him saying as much -- that neither he nor anyone in the biz should complain (he said this after his 2007 arrest). As a huge fan and one who has read so much about him and his background, I have enormous sympathy for him, however. He is so extraordinarily gifted and I have a feeling is also a genuinly kind person. But he has a lot of demons that he has great difficulty overcoming. These kinds of dark, gifted, difficult and complex personalities are so amazing -- they truly make the world a more interesting place. But at some level he's just a guy who screwed up and I hope he has the strength and sincere caring people around him to deal with the consequences.
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JRMISMYMAN |
46. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 10:54 PM EDT
I AGREE,every word you wrote. Alcoholism is very hard to control. One of my family member is a alcoho;ic, and he had to hit bottom first before he knew he had a problem and after almost 30 years without having a drink he is doing great.. JRM probably dont think he has a problem right now and that is sad. I wish my family member could talk to him and help him because he is a sponser for AA.
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scooter&buster |
47. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 11:19 PM EDT
"Even if he is a sorry excuse of a human being, he is still a human being. Just because you don't like what he does for a living, you shouldn't look down on him. That's also really hurtful that your "glad" he was hurt. That's nice that you condone violence."Maggie, I don't care for Perez at all, but, I agree, he didn't deserve to be beaten. Neither did that waiter in the airport deserve to be punched in the face. I think what disturbs me about this incident, more than any thing, is that JRM shouted at and threatened to kill people that were just doing their job. Then he punches a man in the face for trying to control the situation. Now, I'm sorry, but that's just not right, y'all. I know there are tons of JRM fans. I think he's a good actor. I've enjoyed his portrayal of H8. But, I think he just alienated a few possible fans in France forever. It's always sad when a person is given so much...so many opportunites and they just can't help but piss it all away. And, on top of that, they attack every day people...hard working every day people that have more important things to do than coddle with a drunken actor. Pity the man who JRM punched in the face Pity the workers at the airport that were screamed at and threatened. I know I'll get flack for posting this, but it's my opinion...and, I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. I've had a few life lessons of my own. Addiction is sad, and not only actors and artists suffer from it. Every day people suffer from it. They don't have fancy rehabs to go. and, if they go off crazy and start hitting people and threatening to kill them, well, regular folks go to jail for a very long time. I think it's time people stopped making excuses for him--enabling I think its timre he seriously got help...REAL help in a REAL facility...not some health spa disguised as a rehab. Do you find this valuable? |
FMFJRMGRL |
48. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 11:26 PM EDT
"Comments on Perez are not worth my time. But I am deeply concerned about Jonathan. Absolutely he, and only he is responsible for his actions if he chose to drink when it is so obviously is something he can't handle. I think he is well aware of the bargain he has made as a star. And the comments Maggie quoted were him saying as much -- that neither he nor anyone in the biz should complain (he said this after his 2007 arrest). As a huge fan and one who has read so much about him and his background, I have enormous sympathy for him, however. He is so extraordinarily gifted and I have a feeling is also a genuinly kind person. But he has a lot of demons that he has great difficulty overcoming. These kinds of dark, gifted, difficult and complex personalities are so amazing -- they truly make the world a more interesting place. But at some level he's just a guy who screwed up and I hope he has the strength and sincere caring people around him to deal with the consequences."Ditto-You all know how big a fan I am...but like he said it goes hand in hand, your life isnt private anymore when your a star..my only fear is that its not another Elvis situation...God no! But it may have to do with Reena, he was so happy in those pics. I wish I was there to comfort him and not in a sexual way. Im being totally sincere here. I feel for him. Thats the real me and how I am. TO JONNY-<3XO<3XO<3 Do you find this valuable? |
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frogy23 |
49. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 11:28 PM EDT
I'm not giving you flack. And yes, of course, there is sympathy for the waiter he punched, if he did in fact do so. But I don't know that waiter. I do know JRM -- from a fan's perspective, that is. I'm not excusing his behavior, but that doesn't mean I can't have sympathy for him and try to understand his behavior. It's horrible to see people throwing away their potential. I would only differ with you in suggesting that while, yes, he has had opportunities, they have been of his making. The guy really has pulled himself up from poverty, family hardship and virtually no education to very great heights. It's leaving its scars, I believe, but you have to admire that in anyone. At least I do.
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frogy23 |
50. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 11:33 PM EDT
To FMFJRMGRL. As to why he decided to start drinking in the airport -- again, if in fact that is where he started drinking -- it could be anything. He could have just finished a lousy audition, or a great one and decided to celebrate. It could be something really big in his life or a single moment of weakness that spun out of control because of who he is as a celebrity and who he is as an alcoholic. To his credit, while others have attributed his setbacks to issues with his mother or other aspects of his personal life, I've never heard him do so, or blame anyone other than himself.
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scooter&buster |
51. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 25 2009, 11:47 PM EDT
"I'm not giving you flack. And yes, of course, there is sympathy for the waiter he punched, if he did in fact do so. But I don't know that waiter. I do know JRM -- from a fan's perspective, that is. I'm not excusing his behavior, but that doesn't mean I can't have sympathy for him and try to understand his behavior. It's horrible to see people throwing away their potential. I would only differ with you in suggesting that while, yes, he has had opportunities, they have been of his making. The guy really has pulled himself up from poverty, family hardship and virtually no education to very great heights. It's leaving its scars, I believe, but you have to admire that in anyone. At least I do."I agree with most of what you say. i have my fave actors, but most of them are not as well known as JRM..so if they mess up we don't hear about it. And, if they did mess up, I to would be defending them. I guess that's what die-hard fans do. My problem is as fans or as people that care about an addict, we always make excuses for them. Oh, they had a bad childhood. They broke up with a girlfriend or boy friend. They're tired. They're misunderstood. That doesn't help the addict. In fact, it hurts them. The more people make excuses for them the more they continue to do what they do...and hurt those that care for them...or just hurt innocent bystanders. I don't know the waiter that was hit either. But, I can identify with him a heck of a lot more than JRM. I also don't know JRM. Can any of us say that we REALLY know these people we see on a TV/movie screen? I think we believe what we want to believe. Do you find this valuable? |
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frogy23 |
52. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 26 2009, 12:16 AM EDT
I agree. We believe what we want to believe when we have affection for someone. And you are so right that I don't know him. I will say that there is some vulnerability in him that comes across though -- it's what makes his acting so special and what makes him someone you want to protect as well. Of course this guy is more interesting to me because he is not your typical star. Anyway, I think you are correct that "understanding" can easily fall into "enabling." But my comments about his background, while yes partly made as explanation for what's going on, were also responding to you saying he's had all these great opportunities. I just have a feeling that from where he sits he has made those opportunities -- and to a very large extent he's right.
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TillyT2 |
53. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 26 2009, 8:08 AM EDT
Well whatever the cause, I really wish him well - I didn't know much about him before The Tudors, but I've become very fond of him - I love his intense acting style, so i'm sending lot's of love and best wishes his way.
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jrmslady09 |
54. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 26 2009, 9:17 PM EDT
I do hope JRM is ok!! As for people and their opinions it is ok to express them but, don't trash or slander someone or their name!! NO ONE IS PERFECT!!!!! All My Love & Best Wishes To You Jonny!!!
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bellaghore |
55. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 29 2009, 6:36 PM EDT
I'm so saddened and disappointed by this news. I know from comments he's made in the past that Jonathan has a very realistic take on celebrity culture. He appreciates the inevitability of the press invading the lives of public figures - unlike some celebs, who shamelessly court media attention when it suits them (Jonny has never done this...he's always EARNED the recognition he receives) and complain when the paps bother them. But even though he doesn't complain, I can only imagine how upsetting and humiliating this whole business has been for him. We all make mistakes, but when we know the whole world is watching - a lot of people judging very harshly - it must be so much worse. He's obviously in the grips of a very serious addiction, and he has my sympathy. I'm not making excuses or condoning his behaviour in the slightest. On the contrary, there was no possible reason for violence and I hope he takes full responsibility for his actions (I'm sure he will). I also feel immensely sorry for that poor waiter. Uh...this is a horrible situation and I'm still kind of hoping for it all to turn out to be a fake story. But sadly, that's looking less and less likely. Anyway, I wish Jonathan only the best. I hope he somehow manages to make the best of this horrible experience and learn a valuable lesson from it. He's seriously running the risk of damaging his career, reputation, personal life and health, and I sincerely hope he can face his demons this time once and for all, and finally put this sorry business behind him.
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FMFJRMGRL |
56. RE: JRM detained by airport police in Paris?
Jun 30 2009, 12:25 PM EDT
Sending HUGS n KISSES to you JONNY! Still in LOVE with you!! Remember Jonny fans & JRM/HRM Fan Club~we are here for you! Do you find this valuable? |
