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howardfan |
20. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Jul 7 2009, 3:05 AM EDT
"haha no way! i'll laugh!!!"haha jess89 you OWN that was en epic post sorry for double posting my bad :( 3 out of 19 found this valuable. Do you? |
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21. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Jul 13 2009, 12:28 AM EDT
I would feel sorry for him for 5 seconds and then laugh cause after all he's done so far it's about time karma came back around and bit him in the ass.
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22. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Jul 13 2009, 3:52 PM EDT
""...laugh cause after all he's done so far it's about time karma came back around and bit him in the ass.""You rock; that says it all. Will I feel sorry for him? No. Absolutely not. Do you find this valuable? |
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23. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 8 2009, 7:21 AM EDT
"From the Tudors Season 4 Prediction Page:After he cheated on Kat, Anne and Jane. And accused Anne and Katherine of incest, I'm not gonna feel too sorry for im. Do you find this valuable? |
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24. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 8 2009, 11:20 AM EDT
"haha jess89 you OWN that was en epic postthanks howardfan! nice to see you back here \o i remember in season 2 when Henry says:"she humiliated me charles" about Anne and her "guilty" and i though, no my dear you will see what humiliation is... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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25. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 8 2009, 11:23 AM EDT
I know all of you will not feel sorry but i would. I UNDERSTAND in those days it was the thing to cheat on your wives and I am sorry to say this the wives back then accepted that. If it was me Idont think i would be OK with that but that was the times .But with Henry. I would feel sorry for him even though he did to his wives. As i felt sorry for his wives I also feel sorry for him because now he knows how his wives felt.
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26. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 12:15 AM EDT
I will not want to feel sorry for the character and probably will not. It is exactly as he deserves. I most certainly will not feel sorry for Katherine Howard either, because unlike Anne, she probably actually does do wrong. I won't feel sorry for Henry in that yes, he deserves to know how it feels, especially how he treated KoA and Anne, among others, but JRM has such a presence on screen that it is easy to get suckered into feeling sympathy for him, especially if he is suffering, even if he is being 'evil'. Sort of like the Lex Luthor character from Smallville. These characters are very charismatic, but also their worst enemy and really what did Henry expect with choosing a girl like Katherine. You can't truly make a prostitute into a Queen. (Well except in "Pretty Woman"...sort of ;-) After Henry wailed about Anne having slept with a 100 men and betrayed him, etc etc etc which we know was false and he probably knew it wasn't true too, but he had absolutely no pity and mercy for her, so really, IMO he does deserve that divine justice. Someone should use the line on him to endure it like his betters before him. LOL just kidding 2 out of 17 found this valuable. Do you? |
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27. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 3:34 AM EDT
For all that Henry has done, I will certainly feel no pity nor sympathy for him. I'll point the finger at him and laughing loudly. I call that "PUNISHMENT MUST BE"!!
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28. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 7:26 AM EDT
"You can't truly make a prostitute into a Queen. (Well except in "Pretty Woman"...sort of ;-)Kitty wasn't a prostitute, and lets not compare the circumstances of REAL characters with fictional ones! 4 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
SnowWhiteQueen |
29. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 12:05 PM EDT
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excuse me but who are you to tell others what they can and can not compare to? ere you a mod or the owner of this wiki? Thanks for being welcoming to others! anyway, I am NOT talking about real life, i am only talking about the show. i do not know nor care to learn every single detail about the real life counterparts. i watch the tudors for entertainment and the show has taken a number of liberties, so a lot of things are indeed fiction. and in the SHOW katherine howard does appear to be sort of like a prostitute. she accepts payment in the form of money or gifts for sexual acts from the king and maybe others before him as well who knows. that is not the topic of this thread anyway nor my point, i was commenting on why i would or would not feel sorry for the king.eta: edited to take out the "problem" sentence. is that better now? 3 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
Nofretete |
30. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 12:16 PM EDT
"excuse me but who are you to tell others what they can and can not compare to? ere you a mod or the owner of this wiki? geeze, you have a problem. Thanks for being welcoming to others! anyway, "Please don't tell other's they are 'having a problem'. It's not nice and pretty aggressive. Reggie just doesn't agree with you and you two have different opinions, but you guys can agree to disagree I think. 5 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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31. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 12:29 PM EDT
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i do agree to disagree and respect his/her views. but i can't say it is the other way around. it's not cool. reggie19's post was inappropriate, but i will pm you about this matter now as i will not cloud this thread with things that are not on topic
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Nofretete |
32. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 12:43 PM EDT
"i do agree to disagree and respect his/her views. but i can't say it is the other way around. it's not cool. reggie19's post was inappropriate, but i will pm you about this matter now as i will not cloud this thread with things that are not on topic"I got your pm and replied, so I think we can use the thread for discussion of the topic again. :-) I personally think I will feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats. He supposedly was so upset and disappointed that he threw up! But I will probably feel more sorry for her, when she is on the block. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Reggie19 |
33. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 12:47 PM EDT
I was talking about the real Kathryn, and she was not a prostitue! You can find my post as inappropriate as you want, i find yours rather disrespectful to say the least. But i won't say any more on the subject!
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SnowWhiteQueen |
34. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 1:03 PM EDT
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thank you, yes, we will be back on topic. :)i am sure JRM will make it easier for many of us to feel sorry for him, at least that is how it is for me. i think he is a good actor, especially when it comes to volatile emotions, whereas if it had been another actor then i might not feel the least bit sorry. i do think he gets what he deserves, but JRM will make it angsty to watch so there is bound to be some amount of sympathy. i felt sorry for anne when she was on the block, because she was innocent, so i don't think i will feel sorry for katherine (the character, not real life) when it is her time. but maybe i will depending on how they portray it. is there any chance that katherine could have been innocent in real life and they framed her like they did anne? 3 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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35. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 1:06 PM EDT
Hey everyone, this is one of those times when I wish the series was more true to historical facts but the show does show her in a negative light so people who haven't read any history may see her as a "prostitute". Its not their fault if they don't know so maybe its good to remember that. We can always redirect them to the historical info on the wiki and be understanding about their views. Remember the wiki is supposed to be fun. :)
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MsSquirrly |
36. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 1:11 PM EDT
"thank you, yes, we will be back on topic. :)Hi SnowWhiteQueen and welcome to the Wiki. You might find it interesting to check out this page : http://tudorswiki.sho.com/page/CONTROVERSIES+of+the+Tudors which is about all the controversies of history. There is actually a theory that Katherine was sexually harassed. Even historians can't agree on the truth as it happened 500 years ago but its interesting to speculate. The series seems to be setting her up as a little slut but I doubt she would have become a King's wife if she was so openly wanton. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Nofretete |
37. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 1:17 PM EDT
I think they had to decide on some direction with her on the show and they took this route. But I still don't see her as a prostitute, just as a neglected teenager, who doesn't know any other way to get attention then through her looks and being flirtatious. She comes across as quite childish still and in a way innocently naive to me. Not like a grown woman, who knows what she is doing in manipulating men and using it to her own ends. Kitty seems to be flattered by the attraction, but not using it to gain power or anything. She just goes where the stream of life takes her. (But maybe I am going to be proven very wrong in Season 4)
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Reggie19 |
38. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 1:20 PM EDT
"I think they had to decide on some direction with her on the show and they took this route. But I still don't see her as a prostitute, just as a neglected teenager, who doesn't know any other way to get attention then through her looks and being flirtatious. She comes across as quite childish still and in a way innocently naive to me. Not like a grown woman, who knows what she is doing in manipulating men and using it to her own ends. Kitty seems to be flattered by the attraction, but not using it to gain power or anything. She just goes where the stream of life takes her. (But maybe I am going to be proven very wrong in Season 4)"I remember in the episode when she was first introduced, and Francis Bryan brought Henry to meet her, and the way she reacted to Henry''s gift... now, i may have thought too much about it, but she really did strike as someone who had never been offered so much as a kind word in her life. She was overtly appreciative... but maybe that was just me holding out for a more accurate, and kind portrayal of her! 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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39. RE: Will we feel sorry for Henry when Kitty cheats?
Aug 28 2009, 1:32 PM EDT
Thank you, I will definitely check that out. I am sure it is interesting and will be glad to learn more about it. I do not like the character at all on the show (so far anyway, but she may surprise me!) But as for the real life lady, I wouldn't be surprised if she was sexually harassed, seeing as Anne and KoA and other ladies were lied about and persecuted wrongly.
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