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Reggie19
Reggie19
Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 2:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 2:42 PM EDT
This may sound like a stupid question, but i was just wondering, what were the crests of the other queens, Henry's wives that is, we know KOA's was a pomegranate, and AB's was a falcon, what were the crest's of his other four wives, if anyone knows this? Do you find this valuable?    
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Brooke9/7
Brooke9/7
1. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 4:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 4:23 PM EDT
That's a very good question! I was curious myself because I have only seen Katherine A, Anne B, and Jane's badges: Pomegranate, Falcon, and Phoenix. I looked at this website: http://tudorhistory.org/wives/ and found each of the queen's badges under the "gallery" link to the left of the biography. It appears that Anne C's was a sunburst or star with fleur de lis tips, Kathryn H's was a crowned Tudor Rose, and Catherine P's was a crowned queen with loose tresses emerging from some foliage or flower petals. VERY COOL! Do you find this valuable?    
MsSquirrly
MsSquirrly
2. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 4:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 4:28 PM EDT
"This may sound like a stupid question, but i was just wondering, what were the crests of the other queens, Henry's wives that is, we know KOA's was a pomegranate, and AB's was a falcon, what were the crest's of his other four wives, if anyone knows this?"
well the crests are on each character profile but for all of them check out the Tudors Heraldry page here : http://tudorswiki.sho.com/page/The+Tudors+Heraldry Do you find this valuable?    
Reggie19
Reggie19
3. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 4:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 4:33 PM EDT
"well the crests are on each character profile but for all of them check out the Tudors Heraldry page here : http://tudorswiki.sho.com/page/The+Tudors+Heraldry"
Thank you... for the second time today Ms Squirrly! Do you find this valuable?    
Anne'sCurls
Anne'sCurls
4. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 8:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 8:47 PM EDT
What exactly was the purpose of the crest and who came up with them? It seems it would have had to be very fast seeing as how AnneC had one. Do you find this valuable?    
MsSquirrly
MsSquirrly
5. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 8:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 8:53 PM EDT
If you read the page, it explains that badges were from ancient times.... there is a whole explanation there. Do you find this valuable?    
Anne'sCurls
Anne'sCurls
6. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 9:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 9:01 PM EDT
Checked out the page and just wanted to come back and say why the heck does Henry have the prettiest one? The man I hate so much has such a pretty crest. Anne and Jane's seem a little too gawdy and there is too much going on in them. Anne of Cleves and Kathryn H. are dooking it out for #1 Do you find this valuable?    
MsSquirrly
MsSquirrly
7. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 9:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 9:07 PM EDT
yeah but there is more meaning in Anne B and Jane S badges..... I really have no clue what Anne of Cleves' badge is all about Do you find this valuable?    
Reggie19
Reggie19
8. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 9:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 9:07 PM EDT
"Checked out the page and just wanted to come back and say why the heck does Henry have the prettiest one? The man I hate so much has such a pretty crest. Anne and Jane's seem a little too gawdy and there is too much going on in them. Anne of Cleves and Kathryn H. are dooking it out for #1"
Elizabeth's in my fave, it's not on the page, but it's probably prettier than Henry's! Do you find this valuable?    
MsSquirrly
MsSquirrly
9. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 9:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 9:09 PM EDT
"Elizabeth's in my fave, it's not on the page, but it's probably prettier than Henry's!"
Elizabeth's badge was the tudor rose...the same as Henry's......did you mean her coat of arms? Do you find this valuable?    
Reggie19
Reggie19
10. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 9:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 9:10 PM EDT
"Elizabeth's badge was the tudor rose...the same as Henry's......did you mean her coat of arms?"
Probably did, i think she used a lion in hers also! Do you find this valuable?    
karenofbethany
karenofbethany
11. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 9:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 9:44 PM EDT
Heraldry is fascinating because every symbol and color is fraught with meaning. I just received a book on Christian Symbols in Heraldry and the fleur de lys (sp) actually represents the Holy Trinity, as do several other Tudor symbols represent christian virtues, etc. I would love to pause some of the scenes to look at the decorations on clothing and background. Do you find this valuable?    
MsSquirrly
MsSquirrly
12. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 9:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 9:53 PM EDT
Karen perhaps you can fill out more of the heraldry page with the info from your book?

Reggie, I added the coats of arms of Henry and Elizabeth..they are almost exactly the same. Do you find this valuable?    
karenofbethany
karenofbethany
13. RE: Crests of the Queens!
Apr 2 2009, 10:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 10:06 PM EDT
"Karen perhaps you can fill out more of the heraldry page with the info from your book?

Reggie, I added the coats of arms of Henry and Elizabeth..they are almost exactly the same."
I got some of the info from Heraldy on the web, didn't save it, my book is Christian Symbols but I am thinking of getting another book on general Heraldry because I have always wanted to make a tapestry...even the lines and the layout have deep meaning. I'll get the information together and try to add to the page. Do you find this valuable?