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Truth84
Sir Richard Rich and his true agenda
Mar 23 2009, 1:51 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 1:51 AM EDT
I was reading about the real richard rich and he was a flip flopper in real life and served under all the tudor children and took whatever stance they kept him in good standing. He was a catholic in real life and when mary became queen he pushed his true agenda and was one of the most ardent advisors pushing for the burnings of heretics. he is also the one that betrayed Cromwell and testified against him in the trial. He felt bad about the more trial especially when more stated in the trial what he thought about rich. He hated cromwell in real life and I guess waited for the right time to show it. Cromwell got a taste of his own medicine. 1  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
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Brooke9/7
Brooke9/7
1. RE: Sir Richard Rich and his true agenda
Mar 23 2009, 2:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 2:32 PM EDT
Great info! I bet you could flesh out the Richard Rich info page (under season 3 characters). I like to read the Tudor & Elizabethan Bio snippets on the website when I need a primer on characters I don't know well from general reading: In case anyone wanted to check RR out like I'm about to:

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/bios0.htm

I wish I knew enough to contribute to the pages. Thanks for the info; now I'm off to go read about him while I'm on my break. Cheerio!
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Maggie-AnneB.
Maggie-AnneB.
2. RE: Sir Richard Rich and his true agenda
Mar 23 2009, 3:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 3:02 PM EDT
"I was reading about the real richard rich and he was a flip flopper in real life and served under all the tudor children and took whatever stance they kept him in good standing. He was a catholic in real life and when mary became queen he pushed his true agenda and was one of the most ardent advisors pushing for the burnings of heretics. he is also the one that betrayed Cromwell and testified against him in the trial. He felt bad about the more trial especially when more stated in the trial what he thought about rich. He hated cromwell in real life and I guess waited for the right time to show it. Cromwell got a taste of his own medicine."
Yeah, if there was anyone who was All About Themselves, Richard Rich was. He would throw just about anyone under the bus, as long as he was ok.
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TillyT2
TillyT2
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Mar 24 2009, 11:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2009, 11:04 AM EDT
Richard Rich would appear to be a self serving pig, he even tortured a woman called Alice Ayscough withn his own hands, on the rack - in those days it was illegal to rack a woman and the Lieutenant Of The Tower, Anthony Knyvet tried to stop it although he failed, so Rich and Wriothesley 'laid aside their gowns, stepped across to the wheel and operated it themselves' Do you find this valuable?    
Hever
Hever
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Mar 24 2009, 11:05 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2009, 11:05 AM EDT
Richard Rich was a slimeball, what a stupid name as well. Do you find this valuable?    
Maggie-AnneB.
Maggie-AnneB.
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Mar 24 2009, 8:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2009, 8:54 PM EDT
"Richard Rich would appear to be a self serving pig, he even tortured a woman called Alice Ayscough withn his own hands, on the rack - in those days it was illegal to rack a woman and the Lieutenant Of The Tower, Anthony Knyvet tried to stop it although he failed, so Rich and Wriothesley 'laid aside their gowns, stepped across to the wheel and operated it themselves' "
Ugghh... Makes me dislike him even more.
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Anne'sCurls
Anne'sCurls
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Mar 24 2009, 8:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2009, 8:57 PM EDT
Do you mean Anne Askew/Ayscough? At the begining of this thread I had some praise for Richard because he felt bad for what happened to More and got his revenge for him. But what he did to Anne was so wrong. Do you find this valuable?    

AthenaLeStrange
7. RE: Sir Richard Rich and his true agenda
Apr 13 2009, 3:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 13 2009, 3:46 PM EDT
The trial and torture and execution of Anne Askew by his own hands is horrible. I can only hope that this show uses that act in its script. I'd gladly play the role of Anne, a woman that my family descends from. Do you find this valuable?    
svenmaster
svenmaster
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May 3 2009, 3:02 PM EDT | Post edited: May 3 2009, 3:02 PM EDT
"Yeah, if there was anyone who was All About Themselves, Richard Rich was. He would throw just about anyone under the bus, as long as he was ok. "
richard rich was one of the most odious fellows in the 16th century Richard was indeed the poster boy for machiavellian political sleazery
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LadyLizzy
LadyLizzy
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May 4 2009, 5:59 AM EDT | Post edited: May 4 2009, 5:59 AM EDT
"Yeah, if there was anyone who was All About Themselves, Richard Rich was. He would throw just about anyone under the bus, as long as he was ok. "
Yeah, stepping over bodies while doing your "work" was obviously very fashionable back then. He could draw a number and queue behind Thomas Boleyn, Thomas Howard, Thomas Seymour, Thomas Cromwell *dodging a slap from the Crommies* ;), Stephen Gardiner... I'm quite glad we have basic rights today!
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Taminar
Taminar
10. RE: Sir Richard Rich and his true agenda
May 7 2009, 10:32 PM EDT | Post edited: May 7 2009, 10:32 PM EDT
I just saw "A Man for All Seasons," in which Richard Rich is a fairly major character. In that, he knew Thomas More, but Thomas didn't care for him o'ermuch and wouldn't help him find work. As a result, Richard went to work for Thomas Cromwell. In that film and in The Tudors, Richard seems to show a bit of uncertainty about taking action to bring down Thomas More, but from what I'm reading here and at British History Online, it seems that he was very much about doing whatever he had to in order to maintain his position in the court, and it worked for him. Do you find this valuable?