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We really can't give Henry a break because...
Mar 21 2009, 5:22 PM EDT
As far as Henry goes it is true and that is the way it was in the day, but just like today some horrid people are in power. And there wasn't a fairy tale time...even though we were all told it was it wasn't it was real life and Anne was no angel I'm sure of it. It is hard for me to feel for her...she was a golddigger and she made no bones about it...Katherine didn't have a chance. I think that had a lot to do with why he had her beheaded. He woke up and realized what kind of woman she really was...don't forget all these people were all out for power. I think Anne got her attitude from her power hungry family...but, I don't doubt she was as innosent as alot has tried to portray...she was groomed to be married to someone she didn't really didn't Love it was all about the power. Being Born King and/or Queen you were raised to marry well. So you were spoiled rotten and clueless about how the real world was. Peasents were scum of the earth and were treated that way. you are living in a fairy tale world if you think differently. All of the fairytales, we all made from these day's and times...but they wanted everyone to believe everyone lived life like a fairytale and that is the way it was. Just like the Cathalic church wanted to make up there own translation of the Bible and keep all the people nieve and innosent. it's called Control of your situation. Why gypsies and mentrals etc. were such free spirits and made up there own beleifs. If you look at history with the real prespective and realize that it was a totally differnt time and our world was so very young...that it has been that way since the beginning of time. and I am glad that someone else know's that.
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luvprue2 |
1. RE: We really can't give Henry a break because...
Mar 24 2009, 9:51 AM EDT
"As far as Henry goes it is true and that is the way it was in the day, but just like today some horrid people are in power. And there wasn't a fairy tale time...even though we were all told it was it wasn't it was real life and Anne was no angel I'm sure of it. It is hard for me to feel for her...she was a golddigger and she made no bones about it...Katherine didn't have a chance. I think that had a lot to do with why he had her beheaded. He woke up and realized what kind of woman she really was...don't forget all these people were all out for power. I think Anne got her attitude from her power hungry family...but, I don't doubt she was as innosent as alot has tried to portray"I agree 100% Anne was like her father in the way she value money and power over real love. She was so much like Thomas Boleyn she thought her sister was stupid for marrying for love, instead of money.Anne might not have known that she was setting a precedence for young women who were ambitious, and had desired to become Queen. Prior to Anne being crown Queen, I sure very few women thought it was possible. It was the very precedence that Anne set, ended up being her downfall. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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2. RE: We really can't give Henry a break because...
Mar 24 2009, 10:05 AM EDT
I actually think Anne Boleyn was trying to be smarter than her sister, in not giving in to Henry to become his mistress but instead to press for a marriage. Being a mistress was a grand and great deal as long as you were in favor, but after that you could only live in disgrace and as an outcast or go to a nunnery. Her sister was called 'the great prostitute'. It's kind of understandable that she didn't want the same to happen to herself.And I don't think anyone expected it to end the way it did with her. Being divorced, even sent into exile or being imprisoned probably were the worst case scenarios anyone (including herself) would have imagined for her after her marriage to Henry. The whole of Europe was shocked that Henry had her beheaded and they did not have sympathy for her at all before that. I do however think she might have really loved Henry. I can't imagine pretending to love someone for 7 years. So she gambled to have all and in the end lost everything - even her life. Her sister had a much better deal later in life. She married for love, had children and Henry even gave her money long after Anne's death. Do you find this valuable? |
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luvprue2 |
3. RE: We really can't give Henry a break because...
Mar 24 2009, 12:20 PM EDT
"I actually think Anne Boleyn was trying to be smarter than her sister, in not giving in to Henry to become his mistress but instead to press for a marriage. Being a mistress was a grand and great deal as long as you were in favor, but after that you could only live in disgrace and as an outcast or go to a nunnery. Her sister was called 'the great prostitute'. It's kind of understandable that she didn't want the same to happen to herself.Anne should have never enter into a relationship with Henry VIII, because even if she wasn't having sex with him, people still thought of her as his mistress. Especially when people came to know that her past suiters was Thomas Wyatt , who was also a married man. Plus Henry VIII was a lusty king, who had a few known affair under his belt. Anne should have struck a better deal with Henry VIII, she should have agree to be his mistress only if she got to keep her titles, a home, and he must find a suitable husband for her equal to her rank or higher. Anne should have showed some compassion , or empathy towards her enemies. Do you find this valuable? |
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4. RE: We really can't give Henry a break because...
Mar 24 2009, 3:04 PM EDT
It's difficult to imagine just how many "choices" women had in those days, particularly if they caught the King's eye.I believe Anne didn't want to be Henry's mistress because she saw how he discarded her sister. She already lost Percy because of the King. I know she was playing for high stakes, but I don't believe she had many options: "Be my mistress & when I tire of you, I'll find you a suitable match." Thanks a lot Henry! LOL Do you find this valuable? |
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5. RE: We really can't give Henry a break because...
Mar 24 2009, 3:54 PM EDT
"Anne should have never enter into a relationship with Henry VIII, because even if she wasn't having sex with him, people still thought of her as his mistress. Especially when people came to know that her past suiters was Thomas Wyatt , who was also a married man. Plus Henry VIII was a lusty king, who had a few known affair under his belt. Anne should have struck a better deal with Henry VIII, she should have agree to be his mistress only if she got to keep her titles, a home, and he must find a suitable husband for her equal to her rank or higher. Anne should have showed some compassion , or empathy towards her enemies."It would have been a good idea to at least ask for the deal, he may have agreed. Do you find this valuable? |
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6. RE: We really can't give Henry a break because...
Mar 25 2009, 8:18 AM EDT
"It would have been a good idea to at least ask for the deal, he may have agreed."Earlier in the relationship, Henry VIII was so smitten with Anne he would have done anything she ask. If she had made a deal with Henry VIII she would have had a chance at personal happiness. At least she would have been able to keep her head, and her brother would have been able to keep his life. Once Anne married Henry VIII she was under pressure to have a male heir. She was hated by just about everyone, and she lost a lot of friends. (re: Francis 1, and his sister) , so while Anne was Henry VIII girlfriend, life was great, but once she married him, her life turn into pure hell. Do you find this valuable? |