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thekombatbarbie
thekombatbarbie
20. RE: Henry's kitchen...
Jan 17 2009, 3:53 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2009, 3:53 PM EST
I was looking over a list of Henry's fav. foods and I couldn't help, but wonder something. Did he like those foods because they tasted good, or just because of the cost and the dificulty of percuring these items? No wonder the treasury was empty so soon!

Has any one tried any of these items?

Grilled Beavers' Tails

These tasty morsels were particularly popular on Fridays, when according to Christian tradition, it was forbidden to eat meat. Rather conveniently, medieval people classified beavers as fish.

Whale Meat

Another popular dish for Fridays, whale meat was fairly common and cheap, due to the plentiful supply of whales in the North Sea, each of which could feed hundreds of people. It was typically served boiled or very well roasted.


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karenofbethany
karenofbethany
21. RE: Henry's kitchen...
Jan 17 2009, 4:12 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2009, 4:12 PM EST
"K too funny one of the recipes I was reading was about making bread.....

"Bread should be well-baked in an oven and not used the same day"

Could you imagine a fresh loaf of warm bread just out of the oven and your not allowed to eat it......they were barbarians! What they were missing. I am lucky if a fresh loaf of bread actually even get's cold before it is all eaten!"
Apparently during this time or another bread was actually used as the plate, as it caught all of the drippings, etc. Sounds yummy to me except for the bottom half sitting on the dirty table. Reading about servants in the Victorian/Edwardian times, I learned much to my dismay that the plucked game, etc., was crawling with maggots that the poor servants had to pick off before cooking. I don't mean to gross people out. They had no "raid" or anything. The skivvies (scullery maids) would have to get up at 4:30 a.m. in the freezing cold to light the fires and confront rats and mice....
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karenofbethany
karenofbethany
22. RE: Henry's kitchen...
Jan 17 2009, 4:17 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2009, 4:17 PM EST
"I was looking over a list of Henry's fav. foods and I couldn't help, but wonder something. Did he like those foods because they tasted good, or just because of the cost and the dificulty of percuring these items? No wonder the treasury was empty so soon!

Has any one tried any of these items?

Grilled Beavers' Tails

These tasty morsels were particularly popular on Fridays, when according to Christian tradition, it was forbidden to eat meat. Rather conveniently, medieval people classified beavers as fish.

Whale Meat

Another popular dish for Fridays, whale meat was fairly common and cheap, due to the plentiful supply of whales in the North Sea, each of which could feed hundreds of people. It was typically served boiled or very well roasted.


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Your first paragraph: I read that the various european courts tried to out-do each other in dress and food, so of course the balls and masques, etc must have been awe-inspiring. Some seamstresses worked non-stop day and night on the gowns. Grilled beaver's tails...my residents got into a discussion on squirrel hunting, squirrel brains (which supposedly are good in scrambled eggs) and laughed at me when I was aghast. Then it turns out our Administrator comes from a town with a restaurant which serves the "best squirrel brains..." Sometimes I get them started by saying, "hands up for breaking the chicken's neck, which of you slammed it into the wall...how many chopped its head off...!" LOL I love my ladies and some of them would have fit right in at court.
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beardedlady
beardedlady
23. RE: Henry's kitchen...
Jan 17 2009, 4:37 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2009, 4:37 PM EST
That scene kind of grossed me out....the swan dripping down his face. You know Henry really did love swan. See! The show pulls together so many details that are true. Do you find this valuable?    
Bluevanillalady
Bluevanillalady
24. RE: Henry's kitchen...
Jan 17 2009, 4:39 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2009, 4:39 PM EST
"How about BAked Swan with King's testicles....I could not resist that, sorry!"
LMAO...yeah I think I will pass...I have had duck but I think that is about as close to water fowl as I am going to get. Not sure what the King's testicles is but either way I think I will pass on that too!!!
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beardedlady
beardedlady
25. RE: Henry's kitchen...
Jan 17 2009, 4:41 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2009, 4:41 PM EST
"I was looking over a list of Henry's fav. foods and I couldn't help, but wonder something. Did he like those foods because they tasted good, or just because of the cost and the dificulty of percuring these items? No wonder the treasury was empty so soon!

Has any one tried any of these items?

Grilled Beavers' Tails

These tasty morsels were particularly popular on Fridays, when according to Christian tradition, it was forbidden to eat meat. Rather conveniently, medieval people classified beavers as fish.

Whale Meat

Another popular dish for Fridays, whale meat was fairly common and cheap, due to the plentiful supply of whales in the North Sea, each of which could feed hundreds of people. It was typically served boiled or very well roasted.
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What else was on the list? I remember he liked quiche marmalade too. He had to eat fish on Fridays during lent. I guess if you have to eat fish then whale is the way to go. Have you ever tried a real tudor recipe?I did once. It came out so bland. Actually I think my husband said it tasted like dog food.
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mysticsmith
mysticsmith
26. RE: Henry's kitchen...
Apr 11 2009, 10:46 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 11 2009, 10:46 AM EDT
i belive the tudors also ate alot of game phesants woodcocks and other fowel as well Do you find this valuable?    
thekombatbarbie
thekombatbarbie
27. RE: Henry's kitchen...
Apr 11 2009, 11:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 11 2009, 11:54 AM EDT
"Your first paragraph: I read that the various european courts tried to out-do each other in dress and food, so of course the balls and masques, etc must have been awe-inspiring. Some seamstresses worked non-stop day and night on the gowns. Grilled beaver's tails...my residents got into a discussion on squirrel hunting, squirrel brains (which supposedly are good in scrambled eggs) and laughed at me when I was aghast. Then it turns out our Administrator comes from a town with a restaurant which serves the "best squirrel brains..." Sometimes I get them started by saying, "hands up for breaking the chicken's neck, which of you slammed it into the wall...how many chopped its head off...!" LOL I love my ladies and some of them would have fit right in at court."
I have eaten squirrel stew before and it is a bit gamy. It wasn't that bad though! My Mom's 3rd husband LOVED to hunt. Therefore I am person that loves venison jerky, rabbit pot pie, and squirrel stew. This is kind of the fuel of why I think that the foot Henry ate was probably very good!
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AuraTopp
AuraTopp
28. RE: Henry's kitchen...
Oct 27 2009, 2:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 27 2009, 2:08 PM EDT
squirrel stew!!! I didn't know you could eat such a thing. Reading through the recipies is like reading through a Ms Beeching Book, I can imagine what it would look like if King Henry had been around in the Edwardian era.. Do you find this valuable?    
juliana-angela
juliana-angela
29. RE: Henry's kitchen...
Nov 2 2009, 4:18 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 4:18 PM EST
There have been a few programmes on British TV in recent months about medieval, renaissance and tudor cookery, often with well-known chefs doing their own version of recipes. Clarissa Dickson-Wright used a recipe book prepared for Richard the second at the end of the fourteenth century, Antonio Carluccio used the first Italian cook book to be published (mid-sixteenth century) and Heston Blumenthal created his own versions of feasts from various periods. I was watching his Tudor feast programme last night, and he made butterbeer (which also appears in the Harry Potter books), frog blancmange, a cockentrice and rice pudding. A 'cockentrice' was a mythical beast made from different animals sewn together - Henry V111 apparently gave a feast for Francis 1 which had a cockentrice made out of the front half of a pig sewn to the back half a chicken, but Heston added a lamb and a goose as well. That was probably quite tasty but frog blancmange sounds pretty nasty, definitely worse than squirrel stew. Although one of Heston recipes for his medieval feast - bulls testicles - doesn't sound much better... Do you find this valuable?    
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