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Discussion: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
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stephanieford |
82. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 12 2009, 9:32 PM EDT
"ohh ohh....good idea for a poll eh???"Great poll idea! Lets place our bets shall we? My bets are on the painter. This would keep the artist/musician theme they have going. lol But quite possibly Edward Seymour, maybe Francis Bryan or possibly even the scandalous Katherine Howard. I say bring on the polls! lol Do you find this valuable? |
Boudica |
83. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 12 2009, 10:30 PM EDT
"Great poll idea! Lets place our bets shall we? My bets are on the painter. This would keep the artist/musician theme they have going. lol But quite possibly Edward Seymour, maybe Francis Bryan or possibly even the scandalous Katherine Howard. I say bring on the polls! lol"*tries to imagine Katherine Howard as a lesbian* LOL! Do you find this valuable? |
MsSquirrly |
84. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 12 2009, 10:36 PM EDT
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"*tries to imagine Katherine Howard as a lesbian* LOL! "weeeellll. remember that Anne of Cleves was known to have visited Henry & Katherine Howard & knelt before her with gifts .....and the two women danced the night away while Henry, with his abscessed leg retired to bed. So perhaps bisexual tendencies? Do you find this valuable? |
Hever |
85. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 12 2009, 10:43 PM EDT
The more I think of it the more I think they may go with that angle.
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FMFJRMGRL |
86. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 12 2009, 11:32 PM EDT
"weeeellll. remember that Anne of Cleves was known to have visited Henry & Katherine Howard & knelt before her with gifts .....and the two women danced the night away while Henry, with his abscessed leg retired to bed. So perhaps bisexual tendencies?"Quiet possibly that sounds like something that they would do. We all know that Henry would not be involved in a menage`a tios with AoCleves!! My bet is on this one. Do you find this valuable? |
LadyLizzy |
87. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most
Mar 13 2009, 4:35 AM EDT
"Quiet possibly that sounds like something that they would do.Mine, too. That would be an explanation why Henry and Anne oC don't get involved with each other. Do you find this valuable? |
Honey-Beezz |
88. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 13 2009, 8:05 AM EDT
"weeeellll. remember that Anne of Cleves was known to have visited Henry & Katherine Howard & knelt before her with gifts .....and the two women danced the night away while Henry, with his abscessed leg retired to bed. So perhaps bisexual tendencies?"I would really hope that they don't go that way; Anne of Cleves thought Henry as repulsive and coarse(who could blame her?) Katherine Howard was known to have men around her before Henry, there was no talk of women. Anne of Cleves may not have wanted a celibate life,but,it saved her head!! Katherine H. just too young and foolish. Anne had KH as one of her maids,thought her pretty,but empty-headed. Henry's pride was hurt when he attempted a surprise visit on AoC,she didn't recognize his kingness,and Woof!! All of a sudden,he finds her repulsive. Sounded like sour grapes to me. Do you find this valuable? |
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stephanieford |
89. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 13 2009, 6:00 PM EDT
"weeeellll. remember that Anne of Cleves was known to have visited Henry & Katherine Howard & knelt before her with gifts .....and the two women danced the night away while Henry, with his abscessed leg retired to bed. So perhaps bisexual tendencies?"Definitely Tudor material... at least the series of course. :) Do you find this valuable? |
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FMFJRMGRL |
90. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 16 2009, 12:02 PM EDT
"I would really hope that they don't go that way; Anne of Cleves thought Henry as repulsive and coarse(who could blame her?) Katherine Howard was known to have men around her before Henry, there was no talk of women. Anne of Cleves may not have wanted a celibate life,but,it saved her head!! Katherine H. just too young and foolish. Anne had KH as one of her maids,thought her pretty,but empty-headed. Henry's pride was hurt when he attempted a surprise visit on AoC,she didn't recognize his kingness,and Woof!! All of a sudden,he finds her repulsive. Sounded like sour grapes to me."Thing to remember: Its TV, they will put anything in this that will make rating soar. We all see how they arent historically accurate so far, so this is a real possibility. Do you find this valuable? |
luvprue2 |
91. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most
Mar 24 2009, 10:46 AM EDT
"For me it was the rape scene with George Boleyn & Jane Parker. What bugged me the most is that it is a horrendous act which has no basis in history and it blackens George's name. According to most historians there is not one "scintilla" of evidence to support his homosexuality plus now they make him a rapist. From what I have read, he was a very well liked member of court & not mean spirited. He admits to his own "sins" of vanity & pride but not a violent man."I usually am not bothered by dramatic license , i understand the rape scene, and the homosexuality was not done to blackens George's name, but to provide a reason for Jane Boleyn to hate him, and turn on him. In real life Jane and George was married for 11 years, and there wasn't any reports that either of them was unhappy. So when Jane "supposedly testify against George and Anne, people assume it was because she was jealous. However, I do have a problem with the fact that they wrote the Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk out of the show, and I felt the role should have been recast. They seem to combine the character of Charles Brandon, with that of the 3rd Duke of Norfolk. It gets very confusing. Do you find this valuable? |
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luvprue2 |
92. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most
Mar 24 2009, 10:50 AM EDT
"Definitely Tudor material... at least the series of course. :)"True. I can see them pulling something like that on the Tudors. I can also see them having Katherine Parr killing Henry VIII at the end....actual, I would like that ending. Do you find this valuable? |
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stephanieford |
93. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most
Mar 24 2009, 12:21 PM EDT
"True. I can see them pulling something like that on the Tudors. I can also see them having Katherine Parr killing Henry VIII at the end....actual, I would like that ending."That would be an interesting twist on things. However I think it might make a few history buffs upset and might hurt the ratings for future seasons or episodes depending on when they are going to kill Henry off. I am a history lover myself, but I wouldn't mind an ending like that for Henry. (Though I would hate to see Jonny go, I know his fate is inevidable as was Natialie Dormer aka Anne that I liked so much) After Henry's jousting accident is when he was noted to gain weight. He became so overweight that he needed to be moved around by mechanical inventions. I don't see them ever making Jonny gain weight even towards the latter years, but I can see them making him suffer from that ulcer badly enough and maybe even covering him in the boils that he was said to have and maybe include the rumor of gout. If they do all this... maybe a discrete murder by Parr would be forgiven. lol It would be interesting for sure. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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MsCandela |
94. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most
Mar 25 2009, 8:11 AM EDT
"absolutely howarfan, and since the Buggery Act (outlawing sodomy) had been enacted in 1533, it is unlikely that Cromwell would not have used this as a cause for his arrest as he didn't stop at the incest charge.George and his wife were also unhappy because Jane wasn't as intelligent as Anne, George's sister. They didn't have the same type of discussions and George and Anne did and she felt that he looked down on her because of it, thereby causing her to be jealous of the relationship between George and Anne. Everything that I've read about George attests to his being well liked and a gentleman, certainly not a rapist and I've not read anything about his being gay. Do you find this valuable? |
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MsCandela |
95. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 25 2009, 9:03 AM EDT
"From reading all of these posts I have to conclude that the producers of Showtime probably did not count on having an audience who would care so much about historical accuracy. And they were probably even surprised at how many people got hooked on the show. I wonder how many people have written them to complain about the inaccuracies, and if so, why did they not get more appropriate in Season II, but perhaps they just don't care."Yes, Hirst did say that he didn't imagine that Americans would show so much interest in the history behind the Tudors. I either read or heard him say that was the reason for the Margaret/Mary interchange of characters because the name Mary was too common then and we might get confused w/Mary, Henry's sister, Mary, Anne Boleyn's sister and Mary, Henry's daughter. Please. Do you find this valuable? |
Anne'sCurls |
96. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 25 2009, 6:33 PM EDT
Oh he is so right, I mean I can't even begin to keep track of George Washington and George Bush when I talk about presidents. And Queen Elizabeth I, Elizabeth II, and Elizabeth the Queen Mother; just trying to keep them in order gives me such a headache. :faints: That's sarcasm btw
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MsSquirrly |
97. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 25 2009, 6:52 PM EDT
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^^^ LOLwell the name Mary wasn't changed because the viewing audience couldn't keep their Marys straight.....it seems it was done because the production team might get mixed up according to Hirst."I didn't want two Princess Marys on the call sheet," he said, because it might have confused the crew. " `Which one do you mean, Michael? Who do we dress?' ' ......................Go figure. Do you find this valuable? |
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Anne'sCurls |
98. RE: What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most?
Mar 25 2009, 11:18 PM EDT
MsSquirrly I get what your saying and Hirst...just seems lazy now.Princess Mary Mary Boleyn/Mary B./skanky Mary Baby Mary I'll give 20 cool points to whomever knows which Mary is which. BTW Im loving the squirrel in your avatar. Do you find this valuable? |
