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Imponthenet |
Did Cramner Really Travel Around With His Wife in a Box?
Jun 6 2008, 4:16 PM EDT
If anyone knows the answer to this, feel free to post it here.
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tinitini |
1. RE: Did Cramner Really Travel Around With His Wife in a Box?
Jun 6 2008, 8:41 PM EDT
"If anyone knows the answer to this, feel free to post it here."I have never heard of such a thing. Do you find this valuable? |
MsSquirrly |
2. RE: Did Cramner Really Travel Around With His Wife in a Box?
Jun 6 2008, 9:01 PM EDT
"If anyone knows the answer to this, feel free to post it here."In his book "Thomas Cranmer: A Life" Historian Diarmaid MacCulloch raises, only to dismiss, the rumour that she was kept in a box. however he does say that Margaret, the second Mrs. Cranmer, must have lived in England so secretly that even her husband's most bitter opponents never learned of her existence. Perhaps the box was used as symbolic of that fact? 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
angelosdaughter |
3. RE: Did Cramner Really Travel Around With His Wife in a Box?
Mar 7 2009, 9:03 AM EST
"In his book "Thomas Cranmer: A Life" Historian Diarmaid MacCulloch raises, only to dismiss, the rumour that she was kept in a box. however he does say that Margaret, the second Mrs. Cranmer, must have lived in England so secretly that even her husband's most bitter opponents never learned of her existence. Perhaps the box was used as symbolic of that fact?I read somewhere that Henry at one point insisted that all priests must be unmarried and that Cranmer had to put aside his wife. Do you know any more about this? Do you find this valuable? |
Bluevanillalady |
4. RE: Did Cramner Really Travel Around With His Wife in a Box?
Mar 7 2009, 1:23 PM EST
I found this on wikipedia:As the Act of the Six Articles neared passage in Parliament, Cranmer moved his wife and children out of England to safety. Up until this time, the family was kept quietly hidden, most likely in Ford Palace in Kent Do you find this valuable? |
beardedlady |
5. RE: Did Cramner Really Travel Around With His Wife in a Box?
Mar 7 2009, 10:55 PM EST
oh I love the box scene :) I heard that rumor too and always wondered if it was really true.Cranmer was a priest of the old Western Church at the time he was married to his second wife and celibacy was very much required. This is why most priests of the old Church just took a mistress. It was far less complicated. I don't think it had anything to do with Henry's wishes? His second wife was the niece of a German Lutheran...a marriage that would have been seriously frowned upon. Parliament did not legalize clerical marriages until 1549. Until then, Cranmer had to hide the misses. Do you find this valuable? |
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angelosdaughter |
6. RE: Did Cramner Really Travel Around With His Wife in a Box?
Mar 7 2009, 11:59 PM EST
"oh I love the box scene :) I heard that rumor too and always wondered if it was really true.I decided to look this up and dragged my books out. Henry was known to be very opposed to married priests. The ban on priestly marriage that caused Cranmer to have to put aside his wife was enacted in the Act of the Six Articles of 1539. Cranmer argued vociferously against it, as well he might, according to Starkey, but was 'persuaded' according to George Constantine (Sir Henry Norris' servant, and, apparently an eyewitness) to accede to it by Cromwell. Do you find this valuable? |
