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SemperEadem |
Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 5 2008, 4:09 PM EDT
Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3? Historically, he doesn't have too many more years to live (and there's the whole losing titles and such thing...lol). However, I personally would like to see him at some point warning Thomas Howard about getting another Boleyn/Howard girl involved in the intrigue that was court. It would make me at least feel slightly sorry for him (very slightly), and it would serve to foreshadow Katherine Howard's own fall (or, at least, that of the axe that ended her life).
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Scarlett45 |
1. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 5 2008, 5:14 PM EDT
No I dont think we will see him. With Anne and George executed for treason he has no reason to come back to court......plus in the last Eppy he was told to never return to court on pain of death.
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Holly2 |
2. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 5 2008, 5:34 PM EDT
"Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3? Historically, he doesn't have too many more years to live (and there's the whole losing titles and such thing...lol). However, I personally would like to see him at some point warning Thomas Howard about getting another Boleyn/Howard girl involved in the intrigue that was court. It would make me at least feel slightly sorry for him (very slightly), and it would serve to foreshadow Katherine Howard's own fall (or, at least, that of the axe that ended her life)."I'd like to see Boleyn warning his brother-in-law about pushing Katherine Howard forward. It'd be nice to see some indication that he regrets what he did to Anne and that he actually mourns his children's deaths. One thing that strikes me - if they can't bring Henry Czerny back as the Duke of Norfolk, might they try to substitute Thomas Boleyn for him? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
BRANDY246 |
3. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 6 2008, 4:04 AM EDT
"No I dont think we will see him. With Anne and George executed for treason he has no reason to come back to court......plus in the last Eppy he was told to never return to court on pain of death."well i HOPE NOT cause he should be achamed of hem shelf fore what he did to Anne&George,but he still has on daughter left Mary.. Do you find this valuable? |
lettice |
4. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 6 2008, 8:39 AM EDT
"I'd like to see Boleyn warning his brother-in-law about pushing Katherine Howard forward. It'd be nice to see some indication that he regrets what he did to Anne and that he actually mourns his children's deaths.That would be an interesting substitution. Nick Dunning played a great role as Thomas Boleyn. I'll miss his skill as an actor, if not the character he portrayed, if this season was his "swan song". 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SemperEadem |
5. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 6 2008, 9:56 AM EDT
"I'd like to see Boleyn warning his brother-in-law about pushing Katherine Howard forward. It'd be nice to see some indication that he regrets what he did to Anne and that he actually mourns his children's deaths.You know, I had not thought about that before. That would be QUITE interesting to see, even though it would not be historically accurate. He already botched it up once...it would be interesting to see him fail again in Round 2. And if they did set it up that way, would Henry behead him this time? I know of some who would be happy to see it happen. Do you find this valuable? |
MsSquirrly |
6. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 6 2008, 10:37 AM EDT
Just reading an interview with Nick Dunning in the Herald :"Dunning won’t be back for the show’s third season. King Henry (Jonathan Rhys Meyers) and the series have moved on to Henry’s third wife, Jane Seymour (Anita Briem). “I have a fantasy of him ending up in a cupboard somewhere and just appearing on set one day,” he said and then laughed. “I think that would be fun. Just showing him popping his head out.” 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
Boudica |
7. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 6 2008, 10:40 AM EDT
Nick D has not signed up for Season 3 which is a great pity, I would have liked to have seen him for a few episodes like during the baptism of Edward.
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QueenCatherine |
8. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 6 2008, 1:48 PM EDT
I found an article on bostonherald.com about a week ago and posted some of the actor's quotes in his Wiki area. He discussed some of the things Ms. Squirrly mentioned and I also posted a few more comments. He discussed his impression of the character, etc. . Do you find this valuable? |
Shadow_in_the_Sun |
9. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 6 2008, 2:05 PM EDT
I for one am pleased that he won't be in Season 3. Thomas Boleyn at the baptism of Edward? 0_o Warning the Duke of Norfolk about Catherine Howard?! History needs to have SOME say here. It just would not be logical to have him languishing around. Do you find this valuable? |
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Holly2 |
10. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 6 2008, 2:20 PM EDT
"well i HOPE NOT cause he should be achamed of hem shelf fore what he did to Anne&George,but he still has on daughter left Mary.."Apparently, the real Thomas Boleyn (and his still-living wife) never got in touch with Mary after they found out about her marriage to William Stafford, not even when they lost their other two children. Re. the series, would Mary even *want* to see her father under the circumstances? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Carriep |
11. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 7 2008, 9:05 AM EDT
In History Thomas Boleyn only shows up once more at Court, during the baptism of Edward. Lady Elizabeth Boleyn dies a year after Anne, and Thomas two years after his older children are executed. Don't mean to be too rude, but history rules!
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tinitini |
12. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 7 2008, 2:20 PM EDT
"In History Thomas Boleyn only shows up once more at Court, during the baptism of Edward. Lady Elizabeth Boleyn dies a year after Anne, and Thomas two years after his older children are executed. Don't mean to be too rude, but history rules!"I thought I read in Frasiers book that he did continue to serve at court even after his kids executions and then died of natural causes. Do you find this valuable? |
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Shadow_in_the_Sun |
13. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 7 2008, 2:41 PM EDT
"In History Thomas Boleyn only shows up once more at Court, during the baptism of Edward. Lady Elizabeth Boleyn dies a year after Anne, and Thomas two years after his older children are executed. Don't mean to be too rude, but history rules!"Wow, he attended Edward's baptism? I never read that before, how interesting (and strange!) Do you find this valuable? |
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Holly2 |
14. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 7 2008, 3:19 PM EDT
"Wow, he attended Edward's baptism?I wonder what was going through his head. Was he happy to be able to catch a glimpse of his granddaughter for once? I can't imagine that he was unaware of the fact that if Anne's last pregnancy carried to term and was born healthy, she (and, by extension, he) would still be very much in favour. Do you find this valuable? |
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QueenCatherine |
15. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 7 2008, 4:18 PM EDT
I posted a comment about this in another thread so I thought I would post it here in a thread about Thomas Boleyn. Have you noticed that he is the only long standing important supporting role across seasons without ONE hint of a romantic affair, using someone romantically to get ahead, or in a relationship? He's the only active and healthy man running around talking about affairs and bedroom antics and he has none of his own in a very loose court. It seems a bit odd. Maybe those making the show thought that would humanize him too much and create loose ends for his personality? Opinions? Do you find this valuable? |
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Holly2 |
16. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 7 2008, 4:27 PM EDT
"I posted a comment about this in another thread so I thought I would post it here in a thread about Thomas Boleyn.Maybe he's too busy managing his children's lives, Anne's in particular, to have time for his own romantic affairs. He's a very cold fish, so maybe he's just not interested in a romantic or emotional entanglement. Do you find this valuable? |
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QueenCatherine |
17. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 7 2008, 4:37 PM EDT
"Maybe he's too busy managing his children's lives, Anne's in particular, to have time for his own romantic affairs. He's a very cold fish, so maybe he's just not interested in a romantic or emotional entanglement."That's a good point. However, I was thinking being a man of the era, he could use women and not have to have any continous romance or emotional envolvement. A physical attraction action only type. I say this because Henry seems to do this in the first season himself. I agree with you that he was obsessed with Anne and his own place at the court. He obviously didn't have any friends either. That is, unless you consider Howard. They seemed to always be on the same page. Do you find this valuable? |
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lettice |
18. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 8 2008, 10:56 AM EDT
"Wow, he attended Edward's baptism?That is very strange as the Boleyns and Seymours were at odds and rivaled each other. What could have been the motivation? Do you find this valuable? |
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Holly2 |
19. RE: Will we see Thomas Boleyn again in Season 3?
Jun 8 2008, 11:05 AM EDT
"That is very strange as the Boleyns and Seymours were at odds and rivaled each other. What could have been the motivation?"If he was invited to the christening, saying "no" wouldn't really have been an option for him. What I'm curious about was what Henry's motivation was when he issued the invitation; was it a sop to his conscience, a way of rubbing his nose in the fact that Jane Seymour had succeeded where Anne had failed or was he so happy to have his son at last that he wanted everyone, including the disgraced Boleyn, to share in the celebrations? Do you find this valuable? |
