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mall0080 |
Season Finale Blooper
Jun 2 2008, 11:02 PM EDT
I noticed that at the beginning fo the episode 10, when Henry was dictating his letter to the Emperor of Spain to Cromwell, that he called the Emperor "Nephew". Did anyone else notice this. I thought it kind of funny, since having annulled his marriage to Katherine, the Emperor could not be Henry's nephew. Is Henry just doing this to suck up to the emperor in order to get his alliance, because if so he's opening up a can of worms or did the writers just slip up?
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MsSquirrly |
1. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 2 2008, 11:08 PM EDT
"I noticed that at the beginning fo the episode 10, when Henry was dictating his letter to the Emperor of Spain to Cromwell, that he called the Emperor "Nephew". Did anyone else notice this. I thought it kind of funny, since having annulled his marriage to Katherine, the Emperor could not be Henry's nephew. Is Henry just doing this to suck up to the emperor in order to get his alliance, because if so he's opening up a can of worms or did the writers just slip up?"no not a blooper....Henry is reclaiming his family ties with him since Katherine has died and now he can consider himself a widower because he plans to annul his marriage to Anne which I believe is what he was telling his "nephew" by marriage (to Katherine) 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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mall0080 |
2. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 2 2008, 11:23 PM EDT
"no not a blooper....Henry is reclaiming his family ties with him since Katherine has died and now he can consider himself a widower because he plans to annul his marriage to Anne which I believe is what he was telling his "nephew" by marriage (to Katherine)"If he's considering himself a widower then and reclaiming his family ties with the Emperor does this not mean that he has to reinstate Mary's legitimacy and re-instate her in the act of supremacy? I know that he already re-instates her in his will as his heir later on as well as Elizabeth, but he always maintained that his marriage to Katherine was null and void and despite making Mary his heir he still considered her a bastard. Do you find this valuable? |
Holly2 |
3. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 3 2008, 2:28 AM EDT
"If he's considering himself a widower then and reclaiming his family ties with the Emperor does this not mean that he has to reinstate Mary's legitimacy and re-instate her in the act of supremacy? I know that he already re-instates her in his will as his heir later on as well as Elizabeth, but he always maintained that his marriage to Katherine was null and void and despite making Mary his heir he still considered her a bastard. "Henry never restored his marriage to Katherine - in his eyes, he was a bachelor when he married Jane Seymour - and didn't restore Mary's legitimacy but it's possible that, when he wants to make an alliance with the Emperor, he addresses him as "nephew" to hint that he is planning on accepting his marriage to Katherine as valid, even if he has no intention of doing so. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
lettice |
4. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 3 2008, 10:19 AM EDT
"Henry never restored his marriage to Katherine - in his eyes, he was a bachelor when he married Jane Seymour - and didn't restore Mary's legitimacy but it's possible that, when he wants to make an alliance with the Emperor, he addresses him as "nephew" to hint that he is planning on accepting his marriage to Katherine as valid, even if he has no intention of doing so."He's being manipulative again! LOL Recall in Season 1 when he almost strangled ambassador Mendoza when Mendoza stated the Emperor cosidered Henry his uncle. Henry screamed back: "His F-----g Uncle! How old am I?" 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
AdrianaSP |
5. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 5 2008, 3:43 PM EDT
I had the impression Henry was ironic when he mention "nephew", just that. Ironic and cruel, as usual.
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khouly91 |
6. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 5 2008, 4:01 PM EDT
I think Henry was being hypocrite. It suited him to be nice to Charles since he needed him by his side against Francois I. Next day, he'll do the same with Francois by calling him "brother".
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GOODGUY889 |
7. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 6 2008, 1:11 AM EDT
THESE ROYALS WERE SO INTERTWINED, THAT A NEPHEW OR NIECE CAN BE COUSINS, ETC.
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Boudica |
8. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 6 2008, 10:46 AM EDT
"THESE ROYALS WERE SO INTERTWINED, THAT A NEPHEW OR NIECE CAN BE COUSINS, ETC."For Henry and Charles? Very very distant cousins... back to maybe Edward III. Do you find this valuable? |
Mencía |
9. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 7 2008, 5:59 PM EDT
I think he just wanted to reconcile with him.
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HistoryWitch |
10. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 7 2008, 6:17 PM EDT
"For Henry and Charles? Very very distant cousins... back to maybe Edward III."I know that Henry was extremely distantly related to Charles because Henry & Katherine were. I beleive it was through one of EdwardIII's niece. My take on Mary is that Anne was responsible for everything wrong w/Henry's country, court, succession and the brutal treatment of Mary. He treated Elizabeth the same way but she was only 2 or 3 yrs. old and couldn't have had the influence of her mother. But that's a whole topic in itself. Finally, since Henry's god would give him sons Mary was on the marriage block again. Even though Henry didn't technically restore her position she was back in his favor. And she had the desired royal blood of her mother.That was a factor in status Do you find this valuable? |
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lettice |
11. RE: Season Finale Blooper
Jun 8 2008, 11:45 AM EDT
"I think he just wanted to reconcile with him."He did want to reconcile with Charles; there's no doubt about it. He went back and forth between France and Spain like a ping pong ball. Whatever it took to get back into good graces with Spain. Do you find this valuable? |
