Discussion: The Juxaposition of Anne and Jane

"Yes Jane married Henry 11 days after Annes execution, you could say that was in bad taste but I am sure Henry had the date set and Jane complied, . I think its disgusting the way Henry and Anne celebrated Katherines death,to me that was very bad taste. How must Mary have felt when she heard her father and Anne had behaved like that? I thi k its admirable the way Jane brought Mary back to court and that it wass very brave of her to have Elizabeth at Edwards christening, I am sure she must have gone out of her way for Henry to allow it. Knowing the way he felt about Anne, none could even say her name to him . "

"Since Jane was close to death at the time of Edward's christening, I doubt she fought for anyone to attend! I take no pleasure from saying that but its the truth. I just don't get the 'all hail st Jane' view. One minute Jane is brave for doing things, next she is just complying.??? For example - She was brave for having Elizabeth and Mary at the christening, but not brave enough to suggest 11 days was maybe in ill taste???? Sorry but she's my least favourite of all his wives and yes, this is probably due to the fact that I'm such an Anne fan! In terms of reuniting Henry with his daughters, Katherine Parr was responsible for much of that.
I often wonder whether Henry thought of Anne after her death, you know, in light of the fact that as you say, noone could mention her name??? Maybe it was easiest for him to pretend she'd never existed - you know, seeing as how he had murdered her!!"

"Exactly funrod- I read that as early as Christmas 1534 Henry was discussing with Cromwell and Cranmore how to get out of his marraige to Anne. So by then he must have been tireing of the marraige. That was before Jane even came into the picture. Henrys first report of interest in Jane was meant to be in Feb 1536 so its not like Jane ruined their marraige."

"I have read it online a few times cant remember all the web sites but I think it was on Jane and Henrys wikis if you want to check it out-not the wikis here but the wiki which you google, also David Starsky said in his book cant remember the exact words that it was Feb 1536 aswell."

"Except for the fact that Katherine wasn't about to be murdered."

"Can I get a Henrys a pig ? Yes he is. I wonder if each of us would have been strong enough to tell him to buck off ?
Or be charmed into his Queen ? Humm idea for a new topic."

"This post to me just sets a double standard here. When someone tries to explain their position on Jane you start with the All Hail the Saint Jane. Nobody is saying that. They are giving you their opinions and things based on fact. And who do you think brought Elizabeth to the christening ? Who do you think Henry would have had that conversation with ? His wife. And it also gets old saying she was only good because she gave him a boy. Well what double standards we have here. Anne B fans have to always point out that KOA was past the point of more children. And he went after Anne, well he didnt get his boy with her either. So Jane gave him a boy, ok so what. And Elizabeth was a great ruler, well sorry I dont think it was all in the genes. But more the people she was surrounded by and her hardships that made her so great. Does that make her mother great. NO. Ive asked over and over give me a straight answer why you meaning ANY Anne B fan what makes you love her so ? Other than her tragic death and Elizabeth. She was ahead of her time ? Well that can be debated and called jealousy stubborn and many other things. You can also say there were others who were educated. Look at KOA. I think its Annes behavior overall that makes me have no warm and fuzzy feelings for her. I feel bad she died the way she did. But thats it."

"This post to me just sets a double standard here. When someone tries to explain their position on Jane you start with the All Hail the Saint Jane. Nobody is saying that. They are giving you their opinions and things based on fact. And who do you think brought Elizabeth to the christening ? Who do you think Henry would have had that conversation with ? His wife. And it also gets old saying she was only good because she gave him a boy. Well what double standards we have here. Anne B fans have to always point out that KOA was past the point of more children. And he went after Anne, well he didnt get his boy with her either. So Jane gave him a boy, ok so what. And Elizabeth was a great ruler, well sorry I dont think it was all in the genes. But more the people she was surrounded by and her hardships that made her so great. Does that make her mother great. NO. Ive asked over and over give me a straight answer why you meaning ANY Anne B fan what makes you love her so ? Other than her tragic death and Elizabeth. She was ahead of her time ? Well that can be debated and called jealousy stubborn and many other things. You can also say there were others who were educated. Look at KOA. I think its Annes behavior overall that makes me have no warm and fuzzy feelings for her. I feel bad she died the way she did. But thats it."