Discussion: I STILL can't figure out what thomas boleyn says

"I've watched the episode 2 - 3 times (so sad btw), and still can't figure out what Thomas Boleyn is saying when he's being interrogated by Cromwell. He seems very disoriented and mutters something incoherent but impt. I can't figure out if Boleyn is being crazy on purpose (at that point ppl who pleaded insanity weren't executed) or has he really lost his mind? Would love to hear your thoughts / opinions!"

"Hey everyone-how are you? Yes he was in shock of suddenly being 'thrown away' by Henry & the court & was very nervously rambling-still trying to sound all mighty. I think I heard something to the effect of "....if they really did it, they should be punished...." but I could be wrong. I love your thoughts skystew; he is soooo totally SCUM."

"Ok, never mind. I have not turned on my brain today.

THOMAS Boleyn said, I condemn them utterly. Utterly. All those men, whatever, who..what.. whoever deceived the King and slipped between the sheets with his lawful wife. I can utterly..for what they have done there can only be one punishment."

What a wanker!!! He just sold his children out to save his own sorry hide."

"I'm watching it now and so far he has said, "No, sir. You baffle me. My enemies have poisoned the air with their horrid lies. Whatever my sister has done is not with me or mine. I am innocent, Mr. Cromwell, I swear to you! I swear on the blood of Christ. I'm innocent.""

"I remember back in the first episode of this season when the cook - a very stupid cook, I must say; if you're going to poison somebody, don't do it at a dinner party, for Heaven's sake! If more than one person dies after eating the food, your chances of being caught increase dramatically - I was struck by the contrast between the two fathers.

Rouse took the job in the first place to enable him to provide for his daughters and he was willing to be boiled alive rather than accept the deal to name the person who set him to poison Bishop Fisher because he feared that there would be reprisals against him if he spoke out. In contrast, Boleyn, to the best of my knowledge, never takes an action that will benefit Anne or either of his other children alone. There is always some advantage in it for him. He's not going to inconvenience himself on their behalves and he would certainly never stick his neck out to protect them. "

"Yes, I felt sad for him as well. Can you imagine what was going through his mind as he was trying to process what Cromwell was saying to him? How awful!!

You're welcome! :)"

"Did that really happen with rouse? Or is it made up by the writers?"

"Ahh yes that's poor George, Anne's brother saying that quote. Wow I just wanted to run to George; hold him and protect him. Nice job on the quote Lady Anne2 !! :D"

"Would that be the same George who faked a theft of Anne's jewells to coerce one of Anne's maids into leaving court? The one who raped his wife on her wedding night? The one who might possibly have been able to spare his lover's life (or at least some pain) if he had only admitted that HE was the one scrumping "poor Mark"? The one who said it was a shame Mary couldn't "join her mother" after Katherine died? THAT is the George you feel sorry for? :-[]
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On another note: Have they given an indication in any of the episodes as to whether or not Thomas Boleyn knew his son was a sodomite. (Acquit me! That's not my word - that's what they used to call homosexuals.)

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"That's one of the aspects that has struck me about this series so far: very few of the main characters are "truly evil". "