Discussion: No Time Wasted with the Executions - SPOILER ALERT for Episode 9

"Check out the Tudors fanfic on livejournal - http://community.livejournal.com/thetudors_fic/ - most of it centres around a homosexual pairing or pairings. Slash fic is quite popular, for a lot of shows, especially if they have a lot of prominent male characters, as this show does, so maybe the producers decided to capitalize on that."

"You're not nuts, far from it. I seriously considered not watching past Episode Seven. It's always painful for me to watch Anne's execution, whatever production it is, and Natalie Dormer has done such an amazing job that I anticipate it being even worse this time around. It was so heartbreaking in Episode Eight to watch Anne pray for the husband she loves, the father of her child and the man who is going to have her, along with five other innocent people, murdered so that he can marry Jane Seymour. Compared with Anne's real fear and worry, Jane outside on her knees in the dirt praying for the guy she's barely seen just didn't ring true, not for me, at any rate. The fact that Anne truly loves Henry makes it even more tragic, if that's possible.

I haven't seen anything of Episode Nine yet apart from the scene where Anne pleads with Henry with little Elizabeth in her arms. Even if he was determined not to give her another chance and to stay married to her, I find it absolutely abhorrent that he is willing to kill the mother of his child, rather than simply annulling the marriage and letting her leave. I wonder if he just couldn't bear the thought that, once she was free, she might remarry and be happy with another man.

In "Anne of the Thousand Days", Henry is shown offering Anne the opportunity to take Elizabeth and go abroad, promising that they will be well provided for if she agrees to annul the marriage but Henry is such a heartless frakker that I don't see him making even that concession - though I could see him dangling the prospect of a pardon and comfortable exile in front of her as an inducement to agree to an annulment, with no intention of following through on his promises."

"Ironic, isn't it?
I saw "Anne of a Thousand Days" many years ago. If memory serves correct (and it probably doesn't), Genvieve Buchold as Anne, would not annul as she "predicted" Elizabeth would be Queen. It was great drama as you saw a little Elizabeth walking away from her at the end of the film."

"You are right, I watched the show again last night, and they left the trial out. I wish they did not do that. I could have gone w/o seeing some of that other stuff they did to drag us to this point. When Charles came to arrest her in her room with her ladies, I guess they were showing us she was waiting on the verdict. I have another question....on the series Anne's dad was arrested too did this happen in real life?"

"I could have done without Smeaton's torture, I know it really happened but I would have much rather seen Anne's trial! I cannot believe her father he didnt seem remorseful like George or anything. Even when his own son was having his head chopped off & Anne was scream-crying, he just sat there and read. "

"I think I'll tune out during that torture scene when I watch Episode 9. Everyone seems to agree that it's over the top. Like you, I would much prefer to see the trial.
Where exactly is Thomas Boleyn sitting and reading while all this horrible stuff is going on. I'm having trouble imagining the scene.
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"Uuum I see. When the series begans it stated you think you know the story as if they were going to tell it like it is. I just wanted to see Anne's trial that's so important to me."

"O, I know! Then to top it off just to marry another! Noet even because she was really guilty of anythng. But perhaps this is also a reason Elizabeth never marries during her life. The example she had growing up showed her when a man is tired of his wife, he will get rid of her physically or emotionally, in her father's case BOTH"