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When I discovered the inscription on Mary and Elizabeth's shared tomb said, I was confused. Shouldn't it read MARY and Elizabeth and not Elizabeth and Mary??? Since she was the older sister after all. Even if James I did like Elizabeth more and was a Prodestant, it was still disgraceful to show such disrespect to King Henry VIII's legitimate daughter and also the fact that Elizabeth's statue thing (for lack of a better word) was TWICE the size of Queen Mary's and Mary's statue was below Elizabeth's despite the fact that she was England's first Queen Regent and her older sister, and also insulting to Mary's wish to be buried next to her mother. I think that it was a terrible thing to do on the part of James I and not very kingly behaviour at all. I know it seems such a silly thing to be annoyed about but considering that Queen Mary was not shown very much love by anyone except her mother, Jane Seymour and a select few others, she deserves more respect than this considering all her hardships and the lack of respect she was shown throughout the vast majority of her life.

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There seemed to be quite a lot of fun involved with the last Tudor Election last year and I was wondering if we should start up another one for this year! I don't mind organising it and if you guys think it is a good idea I will start it up immeadiatly.

In any case, this thread is for you the fans to vote for the candidates! I will tally the top 4 for each group and then there will be a vote in the end.
You can pick more than once:
You can pick a candidate for: -
- President
- Vice President
- First Lady

Get voting for your favourite character so he/she can be a candidate!

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Just so as not to stray too far away from the "Queen Mary and Elizabeth's shared tomb" thread, I am carrying the discussion of Elizabeth and Essex over here. :-)

My first thoughts are to recommend an EXCELLENT book on Essex, Paul E.J. Hammer's "The Polarisation of Elizabethan Politics: The Political Career of Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex, 1585-1597." The book is pricey, but interlibrary loan it since it is the best look at Essex we have to date and Hammer is a fantastic author. Unfortunately, a number of books/media on Essex out there take the relationship between Essex and the Queen too far, and as a result, he has come off looking like an early modern playboy. Hammer corrects this vision in his examination of late Elizabethan English court society.

Essex emerges as not the court dandy who got by on his good looks, but as someone who made it to where he was thanks to his location in the patronage system. Likewise, he wasn't merely motivated by self-interest, but was primarily motivated by a sense of aristocratic honor and humanist values (he very likely modeled himself on Philip Sydney). Finally, he wasn't as incompetent as everyone has portrayed him as: from 1593-1596 he was more than adept at managing England's defense (which is hard to recognize thanks to his later actions).

Most importantly, however, Hammer tackles Essex's relationship with Elizabeth, and it is definitely not a sexual one! While Essex was indeed a favorite of the Queen, the relationship was never as intense as many authors have portrayed it. Certainly, Essex had respect for the Queen, but she was old, and he was forced to be dependent on her, and thus he made propaganda work to his advantage. Plus, it seems that Elizabeth understood the man, and that she didn't allow her feelings for him affect England (if anything, trust placed in him could be pointed back to a job well-done previously).

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If Anne had really given birth to a healthy son?

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Hi there. In my introduction I said that my husband and I will be writing the card set for the show. I'm a HUGE fan and have watched each season a couple of times at least. I'm also a big Tudor fiction reader and am very familiar with somewhat historically accurate accounts of events. I am looking for input from fans. What you would like to see in the set, what you think of some of my lists so far.
There will be 4 chase card sets that I'm stumped on and am looking for ideas. The sets will be 2- 9 card sets, 1-6 card set and 1-3 card set. I have the 3 set as "Henry's legacy" . I also have one of the 9s set to be locations :
Tower of London
Hampton Court Palace
Whitehall
Greenwich
Hever Castle
Westminster Abbey
St. James Palace
Non-such Palace
Richmond Palace
We have decided to put character cards in the main set along with 1-2 event cards from each show (all 3 seasons-28 shows)
Here is my character list, I need to trim a couple for numbers and would love input on who should go and if I've missed anyone?

Characters
s.1(complete)

Henry VIII
Catherine of Aragon
Anne Boleyn
Cardinal Wolsey
Sir Thomas More
Charles Brandon Duke of Suffolk
Duke of Norfolk (check what his name was)
Thomas Boleyn
Thomas Cromwell

s.2 (possibly incomplete)

Thomas Cranmer
Pope Paul III
Thomas Wyatt
Jane Seymour

s.3(still unsure about this season as I haven't watched it yet)

Francis Bryan
Anne of Cleves
Edward Seymour
Katherine Howard
Jane Boleyn

What would you LOVE to see in this set?
I was thinking of costumes??

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Hey everyone

Inspired by the threadjack to end all threadjacks, Team Cromwell has decided to attempt to harness the madness (a little) and cash in on the creativity/insanity of its members. The very basic score is that this will be a contributory story that imagines an alternative path to Cromwell’s unfortunate end, where he escapes the tender head-chopping mercies of his crazy King and heads off to a life of unknown adventures. Where will his new life take him? Who on earth will he meet? And will he ever find something to wear that isn’t black? YOU decide…muahaha. All Team members are encouraged to contribute their own parts to the story, and non-members are free to join in if they wish. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. I suck at instructions, and this is probably as clear as mud :D

I’ve written a seriously clunky introductory scene-setter, which is rubbish because I was scribbling it in-between trying to do coursework. The idea of starting this off in the Tower was donated by Reggie (and then stolen by me).

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Hi All You Tudor Fans

If you love Tudor History and the Tudor series which was on TV, then join me on my Tudor roleplay on Facebook.com and turn back to Tudorland. Many great Tudor characters are still available but they will go fast.

Here is a list of the Tudor characters still available starting with the Tudors women characters which are: Queen Anne of Cleves, Mary Boleyn, Queen Elizabeth York, Queen Claude of France, Lady Ursula Misseldon, Lady Nan Saville, Lady Margaret Sheldon, Lady Elizabeth Darrell, Lady Salisbury, Lady Eleanor Luke

Now for the Men's Tudor character roles are: King Henry VII, Thomas Boleyn, George Boleyn, Prince Arthur Tudor, LCardinal Thomas Wolsey, Henry Fitzroy, Mark Smeaton, Charles Brandon, Sir Anthony Knivert, Thomas More, Thomas Cramner, Pope Paul III,Cardinal Von Woldburg, Prince Edward Tudor VI, William Compton, Richard Pace Bishop John Fisher, King Francis of France, Thomas Seymour, Edward Seymour, Ambassador Mendoza, Thomas Culpepper, Emporer Charles.
These are all great roles to do and if you are interested please send message to Jody L. Larabee on Facebook and I will give you the details as to how to get on the roleplay. The Tudor roleplay is a great way to have fun and relive the Tudor memories.

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Where is this pic from? Season 4?! and who is in it?! Looks like Anne/Natalie?!!! In ghost form?!! :-O :s

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Although this day may be a sad one, for many it is a day of celebration known as 'Queen Elizabeth Day' for it marks Elizabeth's accession to the throne. What are your thoughts on this day? For me, I think it is both sad and happy, sad because of the death of poor Mary, but happy because of Elizabeth's accession.

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