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"I must admit, I am bent to be more inclined to like Elizabeth overall, but I always try to remind myself that Mary, Queen of Scots, was a bit like Marie Antoinette. She was out of touch of those she was supposed to rule, and her education was not as rigorous as that of Elizabeth's. Additionally, I kind of get the feeling that Mary had a bad habit of making rash decisions, something that Elizabeth definitely had little issue with (she could decide about things for YEARS...and then when she decided, change her mind). Mary was tragic...but Elizabeth was simply the better ruler.

Except, I must say, I think it is hilarious that it is told that Mary went out to play golf at St. Andrews after Darnley's death. Did this really happen? "

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"Ok.....JRM is very easy on the eyes, yes, BUT Henry Cavill does it for me. I think he looks better this season than the first season. I love that his hair grew in a little making him a little look older and more distinguished. He is the first reason why I tune in! HC is super hot and sexy!"

"Actually Sir Thomas Boleyn was a self-seeking snake who didn't care how he kept his position even if it meant betraying his children. He was a judge at the trial of four of Anne's accused lovers and condemned them as guilty even thought he of all people must have known how truly innocent they were. And I doubt he was broken hearted at the death of his children, unless it was for sorrow that his main mechanisms of advancement had been forever cut off. A year or so after Anne and Gorge's execution he actually had some one in his district punished ( he had the guy's hand or ear cut of, I don't remember which) for saying that Anne was innocent. I don't believe a worse father could have ever existed. he is your A-typical jerk. Elizabeth Howard on the other hand seams to really have loved her children, remember Anne said "my mother will die of sorrow" and a year or so after the deaths of her son and daughter she did die. it must have been a terrible thing for a mother to go through. This was the one thing I liked from the other Boleyn Girl movie, the portrayal of Elizabeth Howard, especially at the end when she yells at Thomas Boleyn and says something to the effect of "you have killed my children"."

"The riding accident in question occured January 24, 1536 - he feel off his horse in full armor while rididing in the tiltyard at Greenwich, which knocked him unconcious for 2 hours. Nobody told Anne after he recovered, so she didn't know if he was alive or dead until hours later when he came to visit her."

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