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Tuduriad The Tudors as they really were- a Welsh family on the make 2 Thursday, 10:57 PM EDT by SemperEadem
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A point of interest is that Henry VII and Elsizabeth were known enthusiasts for their Celtic heritage; after all, Rhys ap Thomas own the battle of Bosworth, killed Richard III and installed on the throne in London a Welsh born Welsh speaker he regarded as Y Mab Darogan, the Son of Prophesy. Arthur, son of Henry VII, was raised in this tradition but Henry VIII was positiely anti Welsh, banning traditional style names, saying: No more of your aps and naps. Elizabeth, raised as a Welsh speaker, was much more positive: look at the portayal of Welsh characters in Shakespeare and the sucess of the seisyll or Cecil family, whose messages, written in Welsh, proved a code no Spanish spy could crack
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howardfan historical accuracy 10 Tuesday, 10:53 PM EDT by howardfan
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So while i am a HUGE fan of this delicious show i struggle with the inaccuracy particularly in the first season.
For starters there is the fact that cast are for the most part absoloutely gorgeous, also Anne is portrayed as she is in so many as an ambitious slightly insane woman who wants catherine to die, if you actually read historical biographies one will come to find that anne was a kind and considerate woman who was used as a pawn in her father and uncles selfish game to rise higher. However in saying this i do like natalie dormer and find her acting in the season two finale amazing, her death was portrayed amazingly and she was poised and confident and commanded the audience.

another thing was the sister margaret, her name was actually mary rose tudor and she married King louis VIII of france and did not marry charles brandon immediately, she was imrpisoned on speculation of the kings death however he was old and a little senial, also henry ordered her return, it was then that she took with charles brandon who was eventually welcomed back into court, nothing is said about mary roses hate for anne boleyn as it was in the tudors and the arm wrestle thing between henry and brandon What was that all about? LOL oh well they are keeping it entertaining

Also it is widely accepted now that greensleeves was not written by henry as the particular style of music did not come in vogue until the 1580's, however it is beleived that the song was written about henry and anne.

Lastly katherine of aragon did not look like that but hey it makes for good viewing
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MsSquirrly What scene of dramatic license on the series bothered you the most? (page: 1 2) 21 Aug 26 2008, 10:44 AM EDT by FMFJRMGRL
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For me it was the rape scene with George Boleyn & Jane Parker. What bugged me the most is that it is a horrendous act which has no basis in history and it blackens George's name. According to most historians there is not one "scintilla" of evidence to support his homosexuality plus now they make him a rapist. From what I have read, he was a very well liked member of court & not mean spirited. He admits to his own "sins" of vanity & pride but not a violent man.
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Boudica John Guy's critique of "The Tudors" 5 Aug 11 2008, 3:12 PM EDT by lettice
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For those of you unfamiliar, John Guy is one of the preminent historians specializing in Tudor history, this is what he had to say about episode 2.1 and the rest of the series.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/08/01/nosplit/bvtvtudors01.xml
"The script combines deeply researched, accurate details, such as Katherine mending Henry’s shirts, Cardinal Campeggio’s gout and More’s refusal in the opening scene to accept a letter from the Emperor Charles V, with glaring historical hogwash. "
I think it was a fair criticism, the Tudors isn't historically accurate and it's not always supposed to be and atleast Mr. Guy understands that. I think he was much gentler than Alison Wier was though!


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wexcat How do you correct the historical inaccuracies? (page: 1 2 3 4 5) 80 Jun 25 2008, 1:32 PM EDT by lettice
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I'm bugged because the "historical inaccuracy" site has an inaccuracy. Katharine of Aragon DID have an English ancestor, but it was not Katharine of Lancaster. Her English ancestor was John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, 3rd son of Edward III. His second wife was Constance of Castile, whose parents were the deposed King and Queen of Castile. He married her to get a throne for himself and spent much of their 22 year marriage in fruitless efforts to regain it. They had one surviving child, a daughter named Catalina, who he married to the son of the "Pretender" King of Castile, making his daughter the Queen of Castile upon the death of the "Pretender". I'm skipping those names. Katherine of Aragon's English ancestor was therefore John of Lancaster. His 3rd wife was his life long mistress, Katherine Swynford. There is a '50s historical romance novel about her (and him) titled KATHERINE by Anya Seton and Alison Weir recently published a book in England titled KATHERINE SWYNFORD, which I'm just now finishing. The Plantagenets (the first being Henry II, married to Eleanor of Aquitaine), had reddish hair. Henry VII Tudor and his wife, Elizabeth of York (Henry VIII's parents), are both descended from John and his 3rd wife, Katherine, who had 4 "bastards", later legitimatized by the Pope and Richard II. Katherine Swynford, Duchess of Lancaster, would just "die" to read she is Katherine of Aragon's ancestress!!
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