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"Watching S2 over and over and over again, but here in Ireland, Cromwell has just been executed again, so i've just gone through a relapse!"

"wow..I bet you were pretty pissed off when the alarm clock went off!"

"It's a subpage of Team Cromwell! =D"

"I really hope you're right, Mary has finally been presented to us as a young girl, who deserved a lot more love than what she received, she gave, but never got anything in return.

Cromwell strikes me as a man that tries to hide his weaknesses, by coming across as an ambitous, zealous reformer, there was no room for weakness in the King's court, maybe that's why there were so many a******* around at the time that we fail to understand, being nice didn't get anyone anywhere, just look at Jane Seymour, a nice woman that is forever remembered as boring, plain and dull!"

"I've read this some where before, and I think it's a relatively fair account of who Thomas Cromwell was as a man.

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In estimating Cromwell's character it must be remembered that his father was a blackguard, and that he himself spent the formative years of his life in a vile school of morals. A ruffian he doubtless was, as he says, in his youth, and he was the last man to need the tuition of Machiavelli. Nevertheless he civilized himself to a certain extent; he was not a drunkard nor a forger like his father; from personal immorality he seems to have been singularly free; he was a kind master, and a staunch friend; and he possessed all the outward graces of the Renaissance period. He was not vindictive, and his atrocious acts were done in no private quarrel, but in what he conceived to be the interests of his master and the state. Where those interests were concerned he had no heart and no conscience and no religious faith; no man was more completely blighted by the 16th century worship of the state.

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"I know. THAT would be awesome =D It would be great to see a lighter side of Cromwell...maybe a spinoff show - 'Cromwell: The Early Years'. LOL

Have you seen James in The Mill on The Floss, Dani? He plays Philip Wakem and he actually sings...quite a pretty voice, too :)"

"oh no way a female would do anything like that. We know what women were good for back then....and it wasn't using weapons ....

I don't think Cromwell's executioner earned anywhere near what Anne's did. He was supposed to be an inexperienced teen who basically butchered poor Tom. Some say he was purposefully chosen because they knew he would mess it up. Who "they" are....I am not sure we know. Some say Henry himself but somehow I doubt it. Cromwell had made many enemies."