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"I hope there is a special place in he11 for parents like Jane Grey's"

I mean knew many fathers of that time were ambitious, but Frances was just as bad as her husband. She was even abusive and cruel to her daughters.
I wonder how Frances turned out that way, her mother Mary was suposedly kind...I guess Frances inherited her father's traits instead. Frances also grew up around her cousins Mary I & Margaret Douglas, who both weren't considered cruel and abusive personality wise.
So what happened with Frances? Why was she so different?

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"They show the wound in 3.2 and it is hideous, Ive said before that it looks like an reversed donut. I also would not pull anything or put anything tight over that thing. Just looking at it makes me just want to cut the left off or cut some of the thigh muscle out. In that episode the doctor did pull a very tiny piece of bone out of it.
Its funny did the wound make him mentally unstable or did his instablity have an affect on the physical wound. "

Interesting you'd mention cutting the leg off. I've seen people with chronic leg infections (and diabetes) who refused amputation. In a matter of WEEKS they deteriorate - just like you see them literally wasting away. They become skin and bones and slowly die. I learned a lot from this - it's like the body has a little army in it and the whole army goes to the big battleground (wound) and leaves the rest of the body unprotected.

Anything heavy and tight (like a boot or even too tight a bandage) would exacerbate and irritate the problem. For one thing, anything tight impairs circulation which means the blood can't carry the healing to the wound. They put tight hose on a person to prevent blood from flowing (like a blot clot). As far as Henry's mental instability I think that by that time he was becoming unstable anyway due to his circumstances, his lust for power, etc. The chronic, bad pain, his inability to accept this happening to him, the rebellion, his mistrust of everyone and everything, and the effects an infection can have if it travels through the body would do anybody in.

Finally, something as slight as a urinary tract infection makes a person totally whacked out and confused and I see this every day. In my job, I am with the residents in a lot of different circumstances all day long. Whenever someone has an onset of disorientation and confusion, I go to the nurse and ask if he/she has been checked for UTI, and almost 100% have it.

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"You have to wonder about the way people looked at bathing during TUDOR times. Superstitions seemed to have more power than the Catholic Church. After a while when mid wives wer losing so many mothers I wonder WHY no one thought HEY lets Keep stuff clean.?
ANd the sweating sickness most people died quickly wonder if it was an early form related to a hemorrhagic fever.

I NEVER believed Henry had syphilis because Henry WAS very religious, being raised to be in the CHurch before his brother died.

His leg worsened and with NOTHING for the pain it is no wonder that Henry didnt become really insane. It was remarked that 'You can smell Henry coming into a room long before he gets there' Diabetes I assume as others do. But for a bone infection I am somewhat unsure of this. In our time bone infection CAN kill you ( my daughter had one earlier this year) Tudor times no meds How could he had survived as long as he did after the injury with a bone infection. Most likely a surgical break and improper healing of the bone causing irritation of the muscles, etc. and constant irritation causing the 'ulser' to never really heal.

And the deformity of Anne's last stillborn child..If Henry had syphilis. He would have died at a much younger age I THINK???"

I dont' claim to know about syphillis but we know Henry had other partners and who is to say they didn't carry it - of course, that was never proved. The wiki is great for thinking about possibilities. But I don't think Henry being Catholic prevented him from being frisky (he commited Adultery with Mary Boyelyn who was a married woman and did nothing to have HER marriage annulled).

I have always thought a major part of Henry's bad temper came from his aches and pains, it is said that he was such a health nut when younger, then he starts deteriorating and is helpless to fix it. I have a dog that you can smell before coming into the room due to a chronic infection incurable and let me tell you I spend a lot of time gagging. The little guy remains so good natured and loves to eat. Everybody says I should put him to sleep. I CAN"T, I am a slave to the animals!

I often thank God that we live in times where pain can be alleviated and there are cures enough to give people time to get their affairs in order before passing on. Though I think the longer we live the more time we have to screw up. You are an excellent example of someone I would put on my people to admire list. You have been through so much and remain interested and intelligent and a sharing person. God love you and bless you.

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