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| metalempress | sad | 4 | May 13 2009, 2:20 PM EDT by MsSquirrly | ||||
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Thread started: May 13 2009, 12:29 PM EDT
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The pursuit of Absolute Power is the Sedition of The Immortal Spirit . It is the ultimate temptation of satan
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| LadyJane1961 | MY IDOL, HENRY THE EIGHTH (page: 1 2) | 22 | May 8 2009, 10:15 AM EDT by BoleynGirl | ||||
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Thread started: May 7 2009, 8:24 AM EDT
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HENRY IS MISUNDERSTOOD IN OUR WORLD. WE SHOULD THINK LIKE HE DID IN HIS TIME.HE WAS ALWAYS WORRIED THAT SOME COUNTRY OR SOMEBODY WOULD TAKE HIS CROWN. PEOPLE CALL HIM A TYRANT, I CALL HIM A FIGHTER. EVEN THOUGH I DISAGREE IN SOME OF THE THINGS HE HAVE DONE, I UNDERSTAND WHY HE DID THEM..WE DONT UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS WERE LIKE BACK THEM. WE WERENT THERE . GIVE THIS MAN THE BENIFIT OF THE DOUBT. YES HE IS MY IDOL BECAUSE HE GAVE US HISTORY THAT WE ENJOY AND WITHOUT HIM THERE WILL BE NO TUDOR HISTORY/
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| karenofbethany | LOVE VS. DUTY | 16 | May 7 2009, 10:00 AM EDT by karenofbethany | ||||
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Thread started: May 6 2009, 6:51 AM EDT
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How many members think that Henry VIII would have been a more successful King if he had put the needs of his kingdom ahead of his personal desires? Henry, we recall, always had to be "in love" or at least sexually attracted to his women. For this reason, he dismissed Anne of Cleves, who may have borne him a male heir. There were also plenty of other monarchs who married less-than-beautiful women and managed to sire lots of children, keeping mistresses for their lust-interests. We shall see that in the end, he will marry Catherine Parr supposedly for "companionship". But a lot of lives were lost and IMO the reputation of England was compromised before this.
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| MsSquirrly | The Good, The Bad & The Ugly of Henry VIII (page: 1 2) | 20 | Feb 18 2009, 11:50 AM EST by Conyle | ||||
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Thread started: Aug 24 2008, 5:44 PM EDT
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The tudor period is very much revered by the English more especially for the "The Golden Age" of Elizabeth but also for Henry and I was just thinking today, really what did Henry do for England? What (apart from Elizabeth) was his legacy? If you break it up into the Good ...the Bad ...and the Ugly. There really isn't much in the Good Category.
Good: He was reponsible for the early establishment of an English Navy Protestants will say the split with Rome was a good thing but of course Catholics would disagree. Bad: He was responsible for - the dissolution of the Monastries. Some of the most beautiful Cathedrals & Churches damaged. - the break with Rome which isolated England & caused long protracted conflicts with Spain through the 16th & 17th centuries. - his constant need for wars & his lavish lifestyle bled the coffers of England dry. - he was not an effective mililtary commander or diplomat & engaged in many very expensive military ventures in France which accomplished absolutely nothing. - he was hated by his people as he grew older. - he was immoral and yet in complete denial of the fact. - he discarded women like they were a pair of old shoes that were worn out and he needed a new pair. - he professed to "love" many people (ie. Thomas More, Anne Boleyn, Katherine, Mary, Elizabeth) & yet treated them abominably, even to killing them. Ugly : - He abused the judicial system to have innocent people murdered. People who either just wouldn't compromise their conscience or because they stood in the way of what he wanted. - It was recorded that he had over 70.000 people executed. It is very hard to find positive things to say about this King's reign. Can anyone else come up with some "good" things?
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