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| Username: | HalsAngels | | Related Tudor(s): |  King Henry VIII | | Family tree connection: | My 11th Great Grandfather is Richard Edwardes.. Son of Agnes Blewitt (Bluet) and King Henry VIII , Agnes was his mistress while Henry was still with Queen Katherine of Aragon.
It is said she Left Court pregnant with The King;s Son and She was able to avoid much of the gossip of being at Court..I have also found where she lived at Greenham Manor which was near The King's Hunting Lodge and this is where she conceived the Kings son.. Either way the fact that she was NOT at court helped in the Secrecy.
Agnes's Lineage is traced directly to Henry I, Edward I, Charlemagne of the Holy Roman Empire, and many other Kings and Nobles.
Some Of Richard's descendants , the Lewis family was granted a farm stretching from what is now Wall Street to Bleecker Street in Manhattan, and it was a specific land grant from the Crown .
Although Richard was referred to as the "Bastard " son of Agnes and Henry .. Henry was noted as being very fond of the boy.
Henry VIII provided a stipend for Richard's childhood support, and guaranteed and paid for his education at Oxford. Richard's mother, Agnes Blewitt, was allowed to add the Tudor roses to her personal crest.
Though educated at Oxford to be a lawyer, Richard Edwardes never practiced law, and instead became a cleric in the Anglican Church. He was a poet and playwright of some renown, writing such rousing plays as Palemon and Arcite for the entertainment of (his supposed half sister) Queen Elizabeth. His passing was noted by a contemporary of the time as being a writer of the same class as Shakespeare.
Many think that adding Richard Edwardes as a son of Henry VIII is "Royalty Hunting" But if his step-father, the William Thomas Edwardes line is traced through to its early sources in Wales, it descends on a direct line through generations of Welsh kings to Coel Hen, the last Dux Brittorium, or King of All Britain, ca between 150 and 400 A. D.
This is some more info found on The Tudor Genealogy page..
It is suggested in some documents including in the book 'Edward's Legacy' by David Dean Edwards (1992), that it was whispered among some Tudor researchers that Agnes was mistress to King Henry VIII of England and that the son RICHARD was fathered by King Henry and not by William
It is documented that Agnes did have a son named Richard, but only 2 sons, William and Henry are shown to be positively the sons of William. Richard is said to have kept his Edwards last name out of shame for the indecency that his month engaged in.
* Note ** It has also been suggested that Agnes was the wife of William Edwardes, born ca. 1500 in England and died ca. 1547. The son Richard is the son that cannot be positively linked to William because records suggest that he was born from another man, King Henry VIII. He is known as the "bastard child" of Agnes.
Growing up as a young girl I was one of those daydreamers.. I have lived in a small town in Texas all my life..England was a strange place for me to have a deep love and familiarity for..
However I found myself thinking of this Country in which I had never been nor seen in person.
When I saw a painting Henry VII and Henry VIII as young men ... I cried my eyes out.. I still to this day cannot watch the Tudors season 2 Finale when Ann is executed without Crying in a way I cannot even describe. I do not cry much at all. So this was very strange behavior for me to have..
I have now found, (update below) That I am descendant from King Henry VIII through 3 separate lines thus far.. Two of which are the Edwardes and now the Carey line
Below are the Pictures of Henry VII and Henry VIII (the ones that affected me so strongly).. I felt I resembled them though I know that is not very charming to look like a man.. It may not be so much a physical as a emotional bond.
  
I felt a strange love for them..I thought I looked like them both in many ways..I am posting the pictures of the three I just mentioned and myself ..It may just be me..
I know it to be truth.. I can feel it in my heart. it is Henry VIII's blood that runs through my veins. There is a familiarity with family.. I even felt this way towards him before I knew..
I even had dreams.. if you believe in God and what is said in the Bible , about each of us being apart of our parents and their fathers and mothers, and excuse this but "how we are in the loins of our ancestors" then you must believe in generational familiarity.. How one can never know their father but walk like him, move like him and have the same mannerisms.. it's instinctive..
He is apart of me and He lives on. As well as My other Ancestors who fled France when they wouldn't convert to Catholicism.. There home was confiscated and he, William went to Ireland.. His sons came to America and brought me ,so to speak, with them..(I have found that he is Jean Baptiste Gaston de Orleans, son of King Henri IV of France)
There are those who believe if it is not written in the history books then it is not true..I say to those of this belief that we as simple humans have many faults..There are some who do evil for money, power, glory.. Surely you don't believe they wouldn't lie to you?
Henry VIII and his council could orchestrate the divorce his wife, the be-heading of another wife..As well as many others.., kill his mentor Thomas Moore, abandon his child, etc..etc..
Yet he wouldn't neglect to make sure the record of His "bastard" Son was 100% verifiable for you? There are many things that are true whether we have documented accounts or not....
UPDATE- I know see why my bond and strong feelings toward Anne, Mary and King Henry VIII are so strong.
I have found that I am descendant from Mary Boleyn and King Henry through their son Henry "1st Baron of Hudson: Carey, through his son William Carey, with wife Anne Morgan..
I have a web page I have found and would like to share where this man says he can prove both Henry and Catherine Carey are children of Henry VIII.. Here is a statement made by John Hale ,Vicar of Isleworth to the Council on 20th April 1535
Morever, Mr. Skydmore dyd show to me yongge Master Care, saying that he was our suffren Lord the Kynge’s son by our suffren Lady the Qwyen’s syster, whom the Qwyen’s grace might not suffer to be yn the Cowrte."
— John Hale, Vicar of Isleworth to the Council, 20 April 15351
Here is the website for those who would like to read his arguments and facts..
http://www.genealogymagazine.com/boleyn.html
 
I found I am also related to Katherine of Aragon , through her sisters of Juana the mad and Maria Queen Consort of Portugal.. And of Course Ferdinand and Isabella as well..
   
I have also found I am related to King Francis through his sister Marguerite of Navarre, she was mentioned in the show as Having a affair with King Henry..
 
I have also found that I am a descendant of Sir Andrew Windsor and Arthur Plantagenet of Lisle , son of Edward IV of York who accompanied King Henry VIII to the Field of Gold Cloth in Calais..
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Brunet | | Related Tudor(s): |
 Queen Katherine of Aragon (not by blood, but by a familial association). | | Family tree connection: |
I've always been a big genealogy nerd. Last year my grandparents gave me a packet full of detailed pedigree charts and reports pulled together by various family members. Through my maternal grandfather I'm descended from the de Soto Bermudez Aldao family. The de Soto Bermudez and Aldao families ruled the Dorron region in the 6th century. Later they were loyal supporters of Isabella of Castille, and according to one of the articles "one or more of the family members had been in Catherine of Aragon's wedding party". They were later honored by Emperor Charles I for their service to Katherine. Knowing my Tudor obsession, my grandmother quickly pointed it out to me lol. It's cool to know that I have a Tudor connection, even if it isn't by blood. I'm also descended from the first royal family of Portugal link , and can count Celine Dion as a distant cousin (which may be frightening to some of you lol). Genealogy has taught me that it really is a small world, and you never know who you may call family:)
 
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| Username: | WindStarJes
| | Related Tudor(s): | Princess Margaret Tudor
 | | Family tree connection: | I am related to Princess Margaret Tudor though the JamesVI. Mary Queen of the Scots is my Great Aunt (Not really sure on the number of greats.) The current royal family are distant cousins. (All on my mother's Mother side of the family.)
The side that I have been told that we are related though is the Graham of Montrose on one side and the Stewards on the otherside.
I know that the Steward line is a direct line back to Margaret through her Great grandson, Granddaughter, and Son (James the VI of Scotland & I of England, Queen Mary I of Scotland, and James the V of Scotland) But as for where it all meets up today I am not sure. My great great grandmother told me this when I was little. | |
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GoldenAged.ER | | Related Tudor(s): | Elizabeth Woodville Queen of England, Avelina de Neville, Cecily Duchess of York Neville, Queen Joan of Scotland Beaufort, Margaret Beaufort
Edmund Tudor, Henry VII Tudor, Elizabeth of York Plantagenet,
Henry VIII, Prince Arthur of Wales Tudor, Queen Mary of Scotland, Queen Margaret of France
Mary I, Elizabeth I, Edward Tudor
Lady Jane Grey
The Seymour Family, The Cleves, The Howards, The Parrs
Kings and Queens of Aragon/Castilla.
Joyce Culpepper and Lord Edmund Howard
(Catherine Howard's parents, relation on both sides - My 14th Great-Grandparents)
Anne Boleyn, Mary Boleyn
Margaret, Countess of Salisbury Plantagenet
Cardinal Reginald Pole
Lady Mary Scrope (Lady-in-waiting to Anne Boleyn)
(Her mother, Eleanor Washbourne, is a sister to my Great-Grandfather Sir John Washbourne)
Relations to Tudor Families:
Howard, Tilney, Stafford, Shelton, Fitzhugh (Elizabeth Fitzhugh, Catherine Parr's Grandmother, is my 17th Great-Grandmother), Culpepper, Throckmorton, Scrope, Grey, Cheney, Rich, Bourchier, etc...
          
  
| | Family tree connection: | This all started back in 2007 when my Grandmother died. The Ancestry was found in a bible that my Grandmother had. Both sides of my Grandmother and Grandfather go back to the Plantagenet's and other royal relations. My ancestry I thought was purely Irish due to my last name, but apparently I was wrong.
Not only does my Paternal Line extend back to the William the Conqueror and earlier, but my Maternal Line is connected to Royalty as well through the Culpepers.
In fact I am related to the Culpepers on both sides.
Both sides of my family are connected to France. My mother's maiden name is purely French.
Then on my father's side, we are connected to Louis VIII of France directly due to a marriage between his daughter and my 25th Great-Grandfather.
King Louis VIII of France(Great-Grandfather)
King Francois of France, Queen Claude of France
James I, King of Aragon and Yolande, Violant of Hungary
(My 23rd Great-Grandparents)
Alfonso IX of León Barcelona, Berengaria of Castile, Queen Katherine of Aragon,
Charles V
Diana, Princess of Wales
(Her 10th Great-Grandfather is my 9th Great-Grandfather Thomas Mitchell
AND her Grandfather Edmund, 4th Baron Maurice of Burke Roche is my father's 9th cousin)
The Spencer Family
John, 1st Earl of Spencer is 9th cousin of a direct ancestor of mine
Therefore making me related to
Georgiana, The Duchess of Devonshire Cavendish
Some of my
Relations to Royal Ladies:
Anastasia Agmunda Yaroslavna de Kiev
Queen Consort of France
(1036 - 1089)
Bertha, Countess of Holand
Queen Consort of France
(1054 - 1094)
Matilda, Princess of England
Empress of Germany & Countess of Anjou
(1104 - 1167)
Eleanor of Aquitaine
Queen Consort of France & England
My 24th Great-Grandmother(1122 - 1204)
Isabel of Hainault
Queen Consort of France
(1170 - 1190)
Matilda of Scotland
Queen Consort of England
(1080 - 1118)
Blanche of Castile
Queen Consort of France
(1188 - 1252)
Marguerite of Provence Bérenger
Queen Consort of France
(1221 - 1295)
Eleanor of Provence
Queen Consort of England
(1223 - 1291)
Eleanor of Castile
Queen Consort of England
(1241 - 1290)
Isabella of Aragon
Queen Consort of France
(1247 - 1271)
Blanche of Artois
Queen Consort of Navarre
(1248 - 1302)
Juana I Reina de Navarra
Queen Consort of France
(1272-1305)
Isabella of France
(Blanche de Bourgogne)
Queen Consort of England
(1296 - 1326)
Juana II Reina de Navarra
Queen of Navarre
(1311-1349)
Philippa of Hainault
Queen Consort of France
(1311 - 1369)
Joan I
Queen of Naples
(1328 - 1382)
Katherine de Roet Swynford
Duchess of Lancaster
My 18th Great-Grandmother
(1350 - 1403)Isabeau Bavaria-Ingolstadt
Queen Consort of France
(1370 - 1435)
Isabel de Valois
Queen Consort of England
(1389 - 1409)
Catherine of Valois-Tudor
Queen Consort of England
(1401 - 1437)
Elizabeth Woodville
Queen Consort of England
My 16th Great-Grandmother(1437 - 1492)
Lady Margaret Beaufort
Queen Mother of Henry VII
(1443 - 1509)
Isabel
Queen of Castile y Leon
(1451 - 1504)
Elizabeth of York Plantagenet
Queen Consort of England
(1466 - 1503)
Joanna
Queen of Castilla y Aragón
(1479 - 1555)
Anne
Duchess of Bretagne-Brittany
(1476 - 1514)
Katherine of Aragon
Queen Consort of England
(1485 - 1536)
Eleonore Hapsburg, Princess of Spain-Portugal
Queen Consort of France
(1498 - 1558)
Anne
Princess of Bohemia-Hungary
(1503 - 1547)
Anne Boleyn
Queen Consort of England
(1507 - 1536)
Jane Seymour
Queen Consort of England
(1509 - 1537)
Anne of Clèves
Queen Consort of England
(1515 - 1557)
Mary I
Queen of England
(1516 - 1558)
Catherine Howard
Queen Consort of England
(1517 - 1542)
Elizabeth I
Queen of England
(1533 - 1603)
Georgiana SpencerDuchess of Devonshire(1757 - 1806)
The list goes on...
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| Username: | SemperEadem
| | Related Tudor(s): |    | | Family tree connection: | So, I don't know if I am directly related to the Tudors (jealously, my husband somehow has a Tudor rose in his family's emblem...how he got to have the blood and I didn't is an injustice beyond me...), but I am directly descended from Mataoka (better known as Pocahontas) and John Rolfe. Pocahontas was introduced to James I and VI, great-grandson of Margaret Tudor, when she went back to England with Rolfe. I am not special in my distinction, however, as many whose family came from Virginia are direct descendants of North America's first settlers. And, Pocahontas' and Rolfe's descendants had LOTS of kids. And we don't even know if what John Smith said about Pocahontas rescuing him was true, although it has certainly confirmed that because of her diplomacy Jamestown survived. And of course, because of Rolfe, tobacco became popular. So my family is responsible for a myriad of problems and successes. And yes, even though I know all of the words to the songs in Pocahontas, I ABSOLUTELY KNOW IT TO BE TERRIBLY HISTORICALLY INACCURATE, LOL. I find it fun to shriek, "Don't do it Pocahontas! Keep it true for grandad!" every time Smith and Pocahontas make googly eyes at one another.
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Neta07 | | Related Tudor(s): |
Richard Page - One of the men in Anne Boleyn's court that wasn't in the series | | Family tree connection: |
ok I don't know if I'm officially related to him, but my uncle said that their are not many Page's in the world and that the Page's migrated from France and were originally Le Page and it kinda made sense to me but I have to do more research into it!. | |
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PrincessCordelia | | Related Tudor(s): | Sir Thomas Cornwallis of Brome Hall - who WORKED FOR Mary Tudor : 
John Cornwallis of Brome Hall (Father of Sir Thomas) - who WORKED FOR Edward Tudor: 
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Ok, so I am sadly not connected by blood to the Tudors (That I know of. Who knows what more research might bring!) but I am connected to Mary Tudor through my relative Thomas Cornwallis.
Sir Thomas Cornwallis of Brome Hall:
"was involved in the succession crisis which followed the death of Edward VI"
"had become a member of the Privy Council" of Queen Mary
"played a leading part in the suppression of Wyatt's Rebellion"
"was one of those responsible for bringing Princess Elizabeth from Ashridge to London"
"Was Comptroller of the Royal Household of Queen Mary, was asked by Elizabeth I to stay on"
"one of the Suffolk knights called upon to assist Lady Jane Grey, but on 15 Jul 1553 he swore allegience to Mary and throughout her reign he was to be employed in posts of increasing responsibility"
Anne Jeringham - Thomas's wife - was "a gentlewoman of the privy chamber to Queen Mary in 1555"
I'll have to update if I end up finding out that I am related to the Tudors by blood. But, for now, I am happy to be connected to Queen Mary I through Sir Thomas Cornwallis!
Update:
I just found out that John Cornwallis of Brome Hall - Sir Thomas Cornwallis of Brome Hall's father - was steward of the household of Prince Edward Tudor, which is apparently a important official of the Royal Household.
So, I'll update again if I find out anything else, like if I am related by blood or by any other association!
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