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The tudors around the world
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Aug 25 2009, 2:05 PM EDT by
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Thread started: Aug 25 2009, 8:31 AM EDT
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Hi, I'`m Puertorican and I`m a huge fan of the Tudors dynasty and the Tudors historical period. As I am a fan I know that many puertoricans are too and for them there should be a page in Spanish. Even though many of us are fully bilingual there still are some that don`t know much English. Thanks...
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RE: The tudors around the world
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Aug 25 2009, 2:05 PM EDT
Hi cariven!
We are encouraging members to write in each of their native languages, partly because some of our members from Italy and Spain have mentioned it before.. :-) I can add a page for Puerto Rico that I hope you will add to!
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Ann of Cleves
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May 23 2009, 2:07 PM EDT by
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Thread started: May 22 2009, 3:15 AM EDT
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That Ann of Cleves might be your choice of 'to be Queen' matches that of my son Brett who's argument that she was probably the best of Henry's wives matches my own, she outlived them all and got the most out of the post marriage stakes. Living where I do I easily visit Hever Castle and Lewis in Sussex where there is another Ann of C houses. The more one learns about Ann of C the more astute a character she becomes. And of course I can get to Hampton Court quiet easily too. Will be going to one of their Summer day talks and lectures on June 6th where Brett will also be giving one of the lectures. Am I lucky or am I lucky?
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May 23 2009, 2:07 PM EDT
You are indeed lucky! I actually have pictures of Hever throughout my house, with pictures of the exterior, gardens, etc. I have to be content with that!
I've always thought that historians are too quick to write off or to ignore Anne Cleves, she is certainly one of my favorites.
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Semper Eadem
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Apr 4 2009, 10:06 PM EDT by
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So, yes, I am a bit like Lizzy, in that I am always the same, lol! In a rare fif, I've changed my profile pic and don't know if I can stand it. I felt like I needed a change, but I feel almost desperate to get my old Lizzy pic back. Thoughts? This has been my favorite pic of Elizabeth so far, but I don't know...I also love the fact that she is being portrayed by a little Irish girl, which is something like poetic irony to me!
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Apr 4 2009, 10:06 PM EDT
Yeah, they had a pretty good reason to hate her, too. It's part of my research at the moment to find out what she personally thought about the Irish and Ireland. There were lots of people involved in what happened in Ireland, and her own reactions seem to change over time. So its hard to figure out what she was really thinking. I've been reading a lot of Elizabethan era tracts about Ireland (mainly from New English authors), and it is some of the most depressing things I've ever read. And I thought what the Victorians were writing was awful!
I haven't had a chance to watch that episode again to listen her voice, have you? I'd like to have a daughter who looks and sounds just like her, which won't happen since I don't live in Ireland, and my husband has black hair, lol. I seriously doubt my blonde/brown hair will trump his black!
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KOA vs Anne
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Mar 18 2009, 11:01 PM EDT by
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Thread started: Mar 18 2009, 11:27 AM EDT
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Hi Semper, I have been reading Alison Weir's six wives of henry the 8th, and I am not liking Anne at all. The Tudors makes her story so romantic, and her downfall so sad, yet Weirs really deveops their relationhip as pretty rocky from the beginnng, making her downfall not as swift as it is portrayed in the show. Also, I knew of her unpopularity with the people, but Weir talks about it much more thoroughly, throughout their relationship, and I think the Tudors dosen't go into it except at her coronation. Henry's brutality is certainly developed by Jane, but he didn't read or understand his peoples feelings. I am not loving Anne so much, should I feel guilty?
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Mar 18 2009, 11:01 PM EDT
thank you for the lovely reply. I think you could find some medical records of that time, but it would be quite an undertaking, expensive, and possibly lead nowhere. My daughter went to school with a girl whose father was a medical historian at Penn. Wrote a book about the assasination of President Garfield, which I read when we were neighbors, but they moved to Boston, as his wife Drew Faust is now the president of Harvard. Boy, nothing like name dropping, but it's true. I know about the itunes lectures, but I did forget! I will definitely listen to some. Oddly, I think University of Penna,(I am an alumni and live in Phille), has a top Tudor History department, but would you believe the woman who lectures is on sabbatical? When she returns I think she would be more than happy to let me listen to some of her lectures, but being a big shot she only teaches one course. Please excuse my first post, the typos were atrotious. Didn't proof read, and got interrupted. I'm embarassed. Goodnight. It's late, and I must say the roto tilling was strenuous. I've had my cocktails, and face another uphill climb tomorrow. I'm still kicking, and I think someday I'll laugh about this, or at least tell my grandchildren about the depression, like my Father tells us. His stories are all about bootleggers, speakeasies,and stock trades. He came from a wealthy backround, but hey, everyone was poor then, just like now. I still have the internet, on demand cable, and 3 gorgeous brilliant daughters, although they are still spending not earning! My twins are freshman with 7 scholarships at UVM, but we still are paying huge tuitions, including my older one who stayed 5 years to write a thesis, and then went to grad school immediately But they are fab. I am sooo lucky. good night
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My Latest Project
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Mar 9 2009, 4:31 PM EDT by
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Thread started: Jan 13 2009, 8:11 PM EST
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Which we can also call...SE has a path for attaining a professor's hat! Let's look at Elizabethan Ireland!
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Mar 9 2009, 4:31 PM EDT
Reading early modern English perceptions of the Irish will make you cringe. Or at least, it makes me cringe. On the plus side, however, I've decided that I should write my dissertation in the humanistic tradition, just like E. Spencer did on his Views of the Present State of Ireland (Vievvs of the Prefent State of Irelande...gotta love early modern English printing).
Eudoxus: But what should this dissertation comprise of?
Irenius: Simple, Mary, it must necessarily address the control of early modern bodies and the symbolic representation placed upon them.
Eudoxus: Dost thou speak of Foucault, then, friend?
Irenius: Verily I do. As we read in Discipline and Punishment....
See? I need to channel my inner humanist, ha ha!
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Femininity and Power of the Tudor Queens
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Jan 3 2009, 8:14 PM EST by
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I am doing a sweeping historiographical study of how historians have examined Catholic Mary and Protestant Elizabeth in terms of their femininity and power (be it political or militarily). Basically, I am comparing works on the two queens looking for historian's biases, similarities, etc. So, if you know of a study on either queen that addresses these topics, please post it here. I am well familiar with works on the field, but I also want to examine books outside of professional historians' scholarship to see what those who are not forced to read 3,000 pages of literature each week are most interested and influenced by.
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Jan 3 2009, 8:14 PM EST
"ABE is a fantastic source! And, of course, if one is lucky enough to live close to one, there are some fantastic mega used book stores out there. I recommend an extra suitcase when traveling to New York, so all the books I buy at The Strand can fit into it!
Cecil and Walsingham are definitely included in the project; I can't remember who exactly off the top of my head at the moment, but there was one author who argued (in an article) that the power of the monarchy was limited by Elizabeth being a female ruler. She claimed that society's gender expectations inevitably weakened the monarchy under Elizabeth and made it possible for Charles's head to be lobbed off in the next century. It was very interesting, and Cecil was a major factor listed of course. In fact, there seems to be a line drawn in the gender scholarship concerning Cecil. So, you see, Cecil must be included. :-) " As you surely know, Cecil and Walsingham both pushed a strong Protestant agenda; they pushed her away from any thoughts of marriage with non-protestants, I keep saying religion had so much to do with it all! She was fair, and I would guess resented their constant haranguing. THey certainly were devious enough behind the scenes as well. SHe proved them all wrong with her reign. "The body of a woman but the heart of a man!"
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your knowledge
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Sep 11 2008, 9:30 AM EDT by
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Thread started: Jul 4 2008, 12:26 AM EDT
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I have been following your threads on the wiki, and find you very informed. I assume you are a grad student. I am only obsessed with a topic, but The Tudors series has opened a new world for me. I find that after reading all the standards, and almost all the books suggested by all. I am brought to a new subject, one I know nothing at all about. I am a huge fan of Susan Howatch, a best selling author with many fine books to her credit. However, my Favorite writing of hers is a novel called "The Wheel of Fortune," which is a family saga set in the 18th and 19th century. It is full of celtic philosophy, and At the end, Ms. Howatch says she was inspired by John of Gaunt, and that this work is attributed to his story. I have read this book maybe 8 times. As if out of the blue, I realized that I knew nothing of John of Gaunt, and that perhaps this is the direction my reading should take. I bought several books on Amazon, and have now submerged myself in the war of the Roses, and what a horrific time that was for all. I am presently starting Kendell's renowned biography of Richard lll. Do you find this direction worthwhile? are you also interested in it? I am asking you, as you have contributed much to the discusion. Thanks
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Sep 11 2008, 9:30 AM EDT
Lol, no problem. I find it amazing that I have time to read, too, and in reality, no one has the time to read all that is assigned them in graduate school. One becomes proficient at the art of "skimming" and quickly summarizing! For instance, I am reading Fernand Braudel's master work, The Mediterranean and the Mediterranean World of Phillip II. It is 2 volumes, about 1400 pages long, and that is just the assignment for one class! As the professor said, "For goodness sake, don't read the whole thing, just read the introduction, the first sentence of every paragraph, and get through it! At this point, it is about quickly analyzing the point! And don't forget to look for book reviews!" So, though you may not like some of the books, I suppose what is important is just to skim through the book, try to pick up the main idea of the book, and zone in on what you really find interesting while skimming. Often, what is interesting will be controversial or something you don't agree with. This way, you become familiar with different viewpoints of different authors, and if forced into a corner at a history reception or conference (not that I am speaking from experience, or anything :-D), you can spout off a few lines and seem perfectly legit. :-D Honestly, though, it is good to familiarize yourself as much as possible with different viewpoints, so you can defend yours much better when pressed.
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